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Author: Matthew Holt
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To: System undo crew
Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] Encrypted Messaging Software
To be honest if you're lazy and like mobile devices then check out Telegram
<https://telegram.org/>. Just make sure you have a screen lock and have
settings>Security>and encrypted your device. Telegram is 100% opensource
AFAIK and they have an ongoing $100,000.00 bounty going for anyone who can
show proof that their encryption can be broken. It works just like
WattsApp just very secure. Although like I said make sure you have a
screen lock and your device is encrypted. Textsecure
<https://whispersystems.org/> looks pretty useful secure SMS app. You can
set it to delete every or select SMS threads after N number of texts in the
thread. It will also auto enable secure opensource SMS encryption by
default when you SMS another of the apps users. Other than that either
Chatsecure <https://chatsecure.org/> or Pidgin with the OTR plugin with a
random Jabber XMPP account set up over Tor. nd only ever used over
Tor/Orbot.

Overall I'd say Telegram is the easiest to use if you're already used to
WhatsApp.

On 7 November 2014 17:06, Johnny Teatent <occupyteatent@???> wrote:

> fucking GCHQ can read it all - they listen to every interesting person
> through their mobile phone. if your a cool guy or an interesting guy they
> send human intelligence. pretty girls. my advice is for everyone to get
> state sponsored girlfriends and make them go native, you cant fight the
> state they will put your door in with a big red key and plant drugs or call
> you crazy and lock you up in the asylum. but half these guys are cool,
> wanna help us make the transistion as bloodlessly as possible. facilitate
> the trials and executions of the illuminati paedophiles. #dragemout
> #tompalmernow
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:55 PM, epsylon <epsylon@???> wrote:
>
>> On 06/11/14 05:54, Tim Patrick wrote:
>> > I heard Telegram is pretty good: https://telegram.org/. Also, they're
>> > holding a contest with the reward of 300k if anyone can crack their
>> > encryption. thought I'd share that.
>>
>> Owner of Telegram is the 'Russian Zuckerberg'. He manage a popular
>> Facebook on the country. I don't think that is a good idea to trust that
>> kind of commercial encryption implementations. Mainly, because they love
>> to make business with goverments.
>>
>> I think, that this question of Amir is not complete. Why you need to use
>> encryption?.
>>
>> You can 'spoof' yourself without use it, which is more secure. Remember
>> that, "if you use encryption, is because you have something to hide".
>> Nowadays is really easy using datamining to search encryption patterns.
>> So, maybe they cannot knows what are you chatting, but they can be quiet
>> waiting an error. Best is "not be who you are".
>>
>> Another solutions, depends of what do you want to do exactly. For
>> example, for a local transmission with people arround you, you can use
>> inaudible sounds, which is really secure against common MiTM attacks.
>>
>> https://github.com/Katee/quietnet
>>
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Chris Pacia <ctpacia@???
>> > <mailto:ctpacia@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     I've met Ladar Levison. His dark mail seems promising.
>> >     http://darkmail.info

>> >
>> >     On Nov 5, 2014 11:34 PM, "Brian Hoffman" <brian@???
>> >     <mailto:brian@openbazaar.org>> wrote:

>> >
>> >         I think PGP came along at a time when usability wasn't so
>> >         important. Keep in mind it's lucky that Zimmermann wasn't put in
>> >         jail for his work. Until the Snowden revelations I don't think
>> >         at least Americans even worried about privacy, let alone
>> >         usability. We are in rarified air. So much promise. Why are we
>> >         fighting to find the perfect solution, let's work together to
>> >         continually improve usability and security hand in hand.

>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >         > On Nov 5, 2014, at 11:21 PM, eden <edenw@???
>> >         <mailto:edenw@gal3.com>> wrote:
>> >         >
>> >         > Mark Lamb wrote:
>> >         >> Yes!! Seriously. PGP+Email is a PITA.

>> >         >>
>> >         >> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:55 AM, Amir Taaki
>> >         <genjix@??? <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>
>> >         >> <mailto:genjix@riseup.net <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>>>
>> wrote:

>> >         >>
>> >         >>    PGP + Email sucks balls seriously.

>> >         >>
>> >         >>    What is the most user-friendly encrypted opensource
>> messaging
>> >         >>    software?

>> >         >
>> >         >    I don't know about those other projects ricochet, etc. But,
>> >         i have
>> >         > been wondering why GnuPG/PGP/etc, which are proven, have been
>> >         around for
>> >         > more than a decade, and nobody has made a better UI for
>> >         it/them? It's as
>> >         > if somebody wants it to be difficult to work with?

>> >         >
>> >         >    If anybody knows of any projects working on making them be
>> >         less of a
>> >         > pain, then please let us know.

>> >         >
>> >         > --
>> >         > eden
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