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Author: Christopher Franko
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To: System undo crew
Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] PYD kurdish anarchists and KDP kurdish statists in the syria/iraq conflict
history never repeats itself but it tends to rhyme alot.

On 4 November 2014 12:45, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:

> reminds me of the communist statists armed by stalin who undermined the
> spanish revolution during the civil war against franco by shooting the
> back of the CNT who were out on the front lines.
>
> funny how history has ways of repeating itself. the same forces of
> co-option which we always manage to reproduce from ourselves.
>
> On 11/04/2014 05:40 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
> >
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28925179
> >
> > "In short, the answer is - by and large - no. The West is officially
> > arming only the Iraqi Kurds, even though Kurdish groups from Syria and
> > Turkey affiliated with a US-designated terrorist group - the Kurdistan
> > Worker's Party (PKK) - are playing an equally, if not more critical,
> > role in the fight against IS."
> >
> > "The YPG has been exceptionally successful in fighting IS, in many cases
> > outperforming the Western-backed Free Syrian Army (FSA).
> >
> > While IS, formerly known as Isis, has made alarming gains against
> > FSA-aligned groups, the YPG has successfully ousted the jihadist group
> > from Kurdish towns and cities.
> >
> > But Mr Barzani in Iraqi Kurdistan has one thing that Ocalan does not:
> > widespread international legitimacy and relatively stable relations with
> > the West.
> >
> > Perhaps that is why the KDP has expressed its unease with the
> > increasingly prominent role of the PKK-affiliated forces in fighting IS
> > in Iraq and rescuing thousands of Yazidi civilians trapped on Mt Sinjar."
> >
> > "Some KDP officials have downplayed the role of the YPG and PKK fighters
> > in these efforts. Yet, according to the testimonies Yazidis who escaped
> > Mt Sinjar, and numerous journalists who visited the mountain, YPG and
> > PKK fighters have played an enormously important part in the rescue and
> > protection efforts."
> >
> > "The problem is not a matter of weapons… it's about the will to resist."
> >
> > "The YPG helped re-secure the Rabia border crossing in June after the
> > Iraqi army - and reportedly some Iraqi Kurdish Peshmerga - fled their
> > posts. "
> >
> > On 11/04/2014 02:26 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
> >>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan_Democratic_Party#Allegations_of_corruption.2C_authoritarianism.2C_state_murder
> >>
> >> "A State Department cable leaked by Wikileaks, meant as an overview of
> >> the political landscape in Iraqi Kurdistan for diplomats, noted that
> >> "The KDP consists of family clans, operating very much like a mafia
> >> organization."
> >>
> >> they have been trying to marginalise and squeeze out the anarchist kurds
> >> while making deals with turkey:
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Union_Party_%28Syria%29
> >>
> >> in kobane, the PYD has been needing heavy weaponry and to allow their
> >> fighters to pass from their other cantons. recently turkey "allowed"
> >> fighters from the KDP peshmerga (nation-state wannabe and turkey ally)
> >> to pass to help "defend" kobane.
> >>
> >> here is text from the manifesto of the PYD:
> >>
> >> "The democratic confederalism of Kurdistan is not a State system, it is
> >> the democratic system of a people without a State... It takes its power
> >> from the people and adopts to reach self sufficiency in every field
> >> including economy."
> >>
> >> On 11/04/2014 02:18 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
> >>>
> http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/03/privacy-gchq-spying-robert-hannigan
> >>>
> >>> “I suspect most ordinary users of the internet are ahead of them: they
> >>> have strong views on the ethics of companies, whether on taxation,
> child
> >>> protection or privacy; they do not want the media platforms they use
> >>> with their friends and families to facilitate murder or child abuse.”
> >>>
> >>> meanwhile in the middle east:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JrqfJ67GUM
> >>>
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVISyjFwXAU
> >>>
> http://www.catholic.org/news/international/middle_east/story.php?id=56481
> >>>
> >>> "In the same piece, Hannigan says Isis differs from its predecessors in
> >>> the security of its communications, presenting an even greater
> challenge
> >>> to the security services."
> >>>
> >>> they're loving it. isis is a great opportunity.
> >>> turkey tacitly supports IS militias, and there's strong forces within
> >>> the kurds to coopt their movement for state-agenda serving the regional
> >>> and global powers such as the KRG which is suppressing other kurdish
> >>> groups against popular will and making deals with turkey.
> >>>
> >>> it was western governments actions that have directly led to ISIS, and
> >>> western governments are not bothered about really neutralising them
> >>> insofar as they serve various agendas. this talk of attacking our
> >>> liberty to save us is sickening to hear because of how bland the
> >>> two-facedness is.
> >>>
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