Greetings.

To start on your question, (1) I've been talking to Amir about
releasing part of the funds (10 BTC of it, IIRC) for Dark Wallet's
work which I understand is pretty good. As expressed in the thread,
the emphasis has always been on practically useful tools. The first
coinjoins were done years ago, and had been done many times via irc
before the coinjoin post and the thread. The gap is making them
available to ordinary users.

(2) I also have some small amounts earmarked for Andrew Polestra's
coinjoiner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=432121.0 which
beyond being pretty useful resulted in discovering some weaknesses
which must be avoided, like avoiding theft when two users want to pay
the same amount to the same address), Petertodd's dust-b-gone, and
work on coinshuffle which didn't yet seem mature enough... Before
doing a payout I'll likely go through the discussions and suggest some
other small bounties for other contributors too-- though I haven't
discussed this with the other signers. I'd also like to do the first
bounty payout as a coinjoin itself. The bulk would be remaining for
future work as there is still a long way to go in terms of usability
and freedom from centralized servers in all implementations. I
started some notes a while back at
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/User:Gmaxwell/state_of_coinjoin if you've
been doing your own research on the state of affairs please feel free
to update that page with more citations.

(on the timing part of 1) Due diligence requires that I at least
_test_ darkwallet's functionality, and it's never been working on
testnet when I've attempted to use it. When I last spoke to Amir
about it there was currently some ongoing revision for a new version,
and I was asked to wait, so I've been waiting to hear back again. I'll
be glad to try it out whenever someone asks me to do so.

(3) the coinshuffle work (which is a lot closer to my original
proposal-- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139581.msg1488128#msg1488128
-- than the simplified version in the coinjoin post) may eventually be
something that is universally supported, but it's complex and probably
needs to first be developed and matured outside of any single wallet.

(I'm wondering if there is a reason you did not send this message to
the other signers on the bounty)



On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Odinn Cyberguerrilla
<odinn.cyberguerrilla@???> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> This is a question for developers relative to the distribution of funds
> relating specifically to CoinJoin, in connection with a multisignature fund
> which is collectively held / managed by gmaxwell, sipa, and theymos. The
> fund in question is shown here with a balance of just over 42 BTC at the
> time of this e-mail:
> http://blockchain.info/address/3M8XGFBKwkf7miBzpkU3x2DoWwAVrD1mhk
>
> In the past this has been discussed as part of a thread, example here:
>
> https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20140523.092753.17963f9d.en.html
>
> Recently I posed questions relative to CoinJoin and its fund which can be
> seen from here, which included a response from laanwj on github:
> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/3226#issuecomment-58085920
>
> Following my posting of such questions, and a post I made on bitcointalk
> about it, I received a response also in bitcointalk, which can be seen as
> part of a thread here:
> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=799967.msg9123684#msg9123684
> (in which wumpus suggested communication with Cozz as a possibility relative
> to the process of development of things that would be associated with the
> bounty)
>
> Finally there was recently a brief interaction twitter in which (@orionwl on
> twitter [Wladimir]) responded, which are shown as replies here,
> https://twitter.com/AnonyOdinn/status/519228549362761728
>
> In my response to Wladimir I indicated I would pose this question regarding
> CoinJoin distribution to the list, thus this e-mail which I am sending to
> the list today is seeking an answer to certain questions.
>
> Following my communication on the subject my questions are as follows:
>
> 1) Since the earlier discussion on the Unsystem list in 2014 regarding the
> possibility of distribution of some or all of the bounty fund to darkwallet,
> has there been some agreement between Darkwallet developers and the
> maintainers of the multisignature address (gmaxwell, sipa, theymos) as to
> how and when that might occur?
> Additionally, did Amir Taaki ever get his part of the bounty for
> implementing CoinJoin first? (It does not seem so from looking at the
> multisignature fund, but please advise what has happened thus far.)
>
> 2) Are some proposals which the maintainers of that fund have identified as
> reasonable candidates to receive such funding? (If anyone knows of such
> please indicate what they are by way or reply.)
>
> 3) If core developers / maintainers of bitcoin are working towards a
> technically better / easier to use proposal or proposals that could be
> incorporated directly into bitcoin or made available through any wallet,
> what are these? Particularly in light of developments in the Russian
> Federation, UNSC, and beyond, this seems timely to address.
>
> Where there is a way to protect users in a manner that clearly addresses the
> issues and problems of discoverability and linkability of transactions, it
> would certainly be good to see it integrated directly into bitcoin,
> available in Core as an option, and made easy for various wallet developers
> to incorporate as well. Thank you for reading this and responding to these
> questions and concerns.
>
> Note: I've sent this to the Unsystem list and copied genjix, Cozz, laanwj
> ang gmaxwell, but if I should have included someone else please feel free to
> forward this along to them as well.
> Thank you
>
>
> -Odinn
> https://keybase.io/odinn
>
>