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Auteur: Julia Tourianski
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À: System undo crew
Sujet: Re: [unSYSTEM] Reappropriating our stigmatizing Dark labels
Someday I will meet you jp. And then my life will be complete

- Julia Tourianski

> On Sep 25, 2014, at 10:21 PM, Joerg Platzer <joerg@???> wrote:
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> THIS!
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> April Fools suggestion: come out with a version of DarkWallet called 'PatriotWallet' with all the associated Americana, Eagles, Flags and McDonalds.
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> CoinJoin your bitcoin so ISIS can't track your payments. Encrypt your messages to avoid ISIS dragnet data collection and interception program.
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> IS. FUCKING. BRILLIANT.​
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> And we were talking about this a year ago already.
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> If Cypherpunk / Cryptoanarchism / the Bitcoin economy / dark wallet, whatever and whoever: if any of these entities were a commercial enterprise they would by now have a whole team in their public relations department dedicated to re-wrapping the same product for different target groups over and over again.
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> The described patriot wallet would not only serve US patriots . It can be branded for every group of people on the planet who fears an enemy, whatever geographic, demographic, political, religious or ideological means may define this group. As a tool it can be of advantage and good use for everybody everywhere and at any time as it helps anyone to stop their enemy surveill them.
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> And as such it can have any colour / flag / logo and it can be offered with any kind of tonality and ideological / political / religious sales proposition. Its use is global and groundbreaking and free of all this bullshit therefor it can perfectly adapt to all this bullshit. Fucking gorgeous.
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> Looking forward to lots of red, black, green, christian, muslim, prorainforest-, fuckg8-, anti-whatever-, for whatever- wallets all over the planet.
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> As long as they're dark.
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> ++jp
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> Von: unSYSTEM <unsystem-bounces@???> im Auftrag von Washington Sanchez
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> April Fools suggestion: come out with a version of DarkWallet called 'PatriotWallet' with all the associated Americana, Eagles, Flags and McDonalds.
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> CoinJoin your bitcoin so ISIS can't track your payments. Encrypt your messages to avoid ISIS dragnet data collection and interception program.
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>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Brian Hoffman <brian@???> wrote:
>> I think the point is there's a mysticism that goes with the word dark. It's way more punk than opaque. What the fuck is that? This is the same crap we get about the OpenBazaar name. First off it's just a name and second off you read too much into it. DarkWallet is a dark themed wallet app and there are so many themes for other software called dark and no one assumes it evil. I think it's an unfair assessment first of all.
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>> > On Sep 24, 2014, at 8:52 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:
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>> > Opaque is horrible. We are not opaque people. We try to be true to
>> > ourselves.
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>> >> On 09/25/2014 01:47 AM, Nicolas Mendoza wrote:
>> >> Probably the use of the "Dark" label is beyond the point of no return
>> >> already, but my concern is that the word is rather innacurate. Please
>> >> illuminate me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that these are
>> >> privacy tools first and foremost. In that sense, probably a better label
>> >> than 'dark' would have been 'opaque', with the added benefit that it
>> >> does not carry the connotations of 'evil' that 'dark' undeniably has.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 6:20 AM, Brian Hoffman <brian@???
>> >> <mailto:brian@openbazaar.org>> wrote:
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>> >>    Like it or not people want to be happy not the truth. The truth
>> >>    isn't always comfortable. It's much easier to ignore the
>> >>    inconvenience of truth and fake happiness in our local McDonald's
>> >>    and Starbucks handing over our plastic cards representing our mental
>> >>    prisons to buy Shit we don't need.

>> >>
>> >>    On Sep 24, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Washington Sanchez
>> >>    <washington.sanchez@??? <mailto:washington.sanchez@gmail.com>>
>> >>    wrote:

>> >>
>> >>>    (55 upvotes for viking frat boys)/2... twins Basil!

>> >>>
>> >>>    On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Julia Tourianski
>> >>>    <juliatourianski@??? <mailto:juliatourianski@gmail.com>> wrote:

>> >>>
>> >>>        55 upvotes for viking frat boys

>> >>>
>> >>>        -1 for terrorist looking squatter

>> >>>
>> >>>        reddit = the success of democracy

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>> >>>        For the secrets and lies, my PGP key:
>> >>>        https://libbitcoin.dyne.org/julia_tourianski.pgp.asc

>> >>>
>> >>>        On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???
>> >>>        <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:

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>> >>>            http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2hc34r/winklevoss_bitcoin_presentation_at_value/ckrlzci?context=3

>> >>>
>> >>>            I'm only talking about technology. Consensus is not truth.

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>> >>>>            On 09/24/2014 11:58 PM, Washington Sanchez wrote:
>> >>>> "We legitimise tools of power over us when we display cowardice."

>> >>>>
>> >>>> Tres awesome.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:21 AM, Amir Taaki <genjix@??? <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>
>> >>>> <mailto:genjix@riseup.net <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>    Whenever someone asks, just post this link:

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>> >>>>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reappropriation

>> >>>>
>> >>>>    It's the nature of this type of activism that it is provocative.
>> >>>>    We legitimise tools of power over us when we display cowardice.
>> >>>>    The struggle is for more than just the technology.
>> >>>>    Bold moves shape the narrative.

>> >>>>
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>> >>>> *Dr Washington Y. Sanchez*
>> >>>> Post-doctoral research officer
>> >>>> Therapeutics Research Centre
>> >>>> University of Queensland
>> >>>> Princess Alexandra Hospital
>> >>>> Woollongabba, 4102
>> >>>> Queensland, Australia
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>> >>>    *Dr Washington Y. Sanchez*
>> >>>    Post-doctoral research officer
>> >>>    Therapeutics Research Centre
>> >>>    University of Queensland
>> >>>    Princess Alexandra Hospital
>> >>>    Woollongabba, 4102
>> >>>    Queensland, Australia
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>> >> --
>> >> Nicolas Mendoza
>> >>
>> >> PhD Researcher
>> >> School of Creative Media
>> >> City University of Hong Kong
>> >> China PDR - HKSAR
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> Dr Washington Y. Sanchez
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> Therapeutics Research Centre
> University of Queensland
> Princess Alexandra Hospital
> Woollongabba, 4102
> Queensland, Australia
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