Jesus Christ, man, it's a thought experiment and as such simplified problem
with constraints that don't apply to the real world. Why couldn't I leave
the room? Etc. It is a bloody thought experiment.

Ironic that you seem ready to fight over whose a greater pacifist. Your
attitude on this disgusts me. This is the last I'll reply to you on this
subject.

Please consider whether your use of declaratives is logical, as well as
the unconditionals. I hope you will have done so, next time we speak. Which
could be soon; I don't hold grudges or remember names often.

Peace.


On Sunday, August 31, 2014, Diego Saa <cuco.saa@???> wrote:

> An even more preferable use of resources would be helping make peace.
> Goading others into fighting each other is fucked up, and will blow on your
> own face when those people realize what you are doing.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Josh Walker <josh@???
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','josh@???');>> wrote:
>
>> Naturally.
>>
>> Let's say there are two fighters in a room, plus me. They refuse to just
>> crack a beer and relax, but rather insist on fighting.
>>
>> Although I would be justified to defend myself if pressed, it is a
>> preferable use of resources (time and energy) to goad them into
>> fighting each other.
>>
>> That's all I mean.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, August 31, 2014, Diego Saa <cuco.saa@???
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cuco.saa@???');>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not sure that any kind of fighting is a good thing for freedom. To a
>>> certain extent, all governments fight other governments and also fight any
>>> dissenters amongst their own population. You are right in that Correa's
>>> government is no exception, though.
>>> So he's the same as all governments. But anytime they're fighting each
>>> other instead of the people, that's a good thing for freedom, at least in
>>> the moment.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 31, 2014, Diego Saa <cuco.saa@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Correa is cool in that his policies contribute in moving away from the
>>>> centralization of power of the American Empire. However, he is not cool in
>>>> that he has a tendency to centralize all the state powers in himself,
>>>> undermining all freedoms and increasing the size of the state.
>>>>
>>>> I feel a lot free-er in Ecuador than I did in the States, though (I
>>>> just returned to Ecuador from living in Florida for over 5 years).
>>>> On Aug 31, 2014 1:24 PM, "Özer Tayiz" <otayiz@???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm living in Quito, Ecuador too. I have mixed feelings about Correa.
>>>>> I don't feel good about him creating his own fiat 2.0 currency, while
>>>>> banning bitcoin and other digital currencies. And some of his political
>>>>> decisions. This may be a reason for me to leave Ecuador.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Metatron YHVH <metatrongone@???
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you really use Assange to validate this man's character/motives?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Nicolás Mendoza <
>>>>>> nicolasmendo@???> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the other hand, if it weren't for Correa's BALLS, Julian Assange
>>>>>>> would probably be naked, cold and wet in some dark pit in a US military
>>>>>>> base awaiting trial. No one else in the world would take the heat for JA
>>>>>>> like Correa did.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 8:04 AM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you. Good to know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 08/31/2014 12:04 AM, Marco wrote:
>>>>>>>> > Don't be fooled. Correa is a devil in disguise. I Live in
>>>>>>>> Ecuador, have
>>>>>>>> > for over 5 years & this guy is Obama # 2. Wolf in sheep's
>>>>>>>> clothing.
>>>>>>>> > American trained economy from some ivy league school. Sells of
>>>>>>>> all the
>>>>>>>> > jungle here to chinese interests. Shuts down local grassroots
>>>>>>>> activism
>>>>>>>> > via swat teams. Some years ago he had banned GMO & put it in the
>>>>>>>> > constitution, now 2 years later, he is desperately trying to
>>>>>>>> reverse
>>>>>>>> > course & promote GMOs in the country. Pretends he is against US
>>>>>>>> > "imperialism" but it is clear they both answer to the SAME
>>>>>>>> MASTERS. It's
>>>>>>>> > just a show, like those incredible speeches Obama gave in 2006-7.
>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>> > "electronic currency" is just fiat 2.0, a central bank response to
>>>>>>>> > decentralized crypto currency which he has recently BANNED. I had
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> > turn off my GPU mining because I don't want to jeopardize my
>>>>>>>> freedom.
>>>>>>>> > Ecuadorian jails aren't pretty.
>>>>>>>> > Look to Putin or Morales if there is to be any hope in a
>>>>>>>> politician.
>>>>>>>> > Correa is a filthy pig, through & through.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > www.nondescrypt.net <http://www.nondescrypt.net> - Episode 2
>>>>>>>> > -Understanding Bitcoin for my take on it.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > :)
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On 30 August 2014 12:06, Amir Taaki <genjix@???
>>>>>>>> > <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> http://phys.org/news/2014-08-ecuador-heralds-digital-currency.html
>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>> >     Guys, I actually think this is pretty interesting. Rafael
>>>>>>>> Correa has an
>>>>>>>> >     economics background and an interesting personal history:

>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>> >     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Correa#Early_life

>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>> >     He's an advocate of economic sovereignty.

>>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>> >     Although I have mixed feelings about this which can be
>>>>>>>> interpreted in
>>>>>>>> >     multiple ways.

>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >

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