To be the maker is to be everything for what is made.
On 6 August 2014 23:44, Troy Benjegerdes <hozer@???> wrote:
> Hypothesis:
>
> Code, corporations, cars, hand-forged iron artworks, and great ships of
> old are made of physical elements entrained with elements, aspects, and
> reflections of their creators mind, spirit, and soul.
>
> Experience:
>
> I say this because I have touched a mere thing in which I can sense
> something
> beyond the mere basic elemental arrangement. I do not know what is is of
> which
> I sense, only that there is quite a bit we have not discovered or
> quantified.
>
> You may be able to view code in isolation as neutral, but it interacts with
> and runs on hardware, which was touched by human artisans, and these
> artisans
> have left their mark on the hardware and financial ecosystem in which the
> code lives. So alone, the code may be neutral, but without cicuits, memory,
> transistors, and electric flow to power it, and finance to feed the electro
> systems, it is nothing. In live action, there is a reflection of the souls
> of
> the makers of the systems
>
> Conclusion:
>
> We can let the system make us, or we can make the system. I happen to think
> most of us on the unSystem choose to be makers, and we should take care of
> the code and thoughts we will leave behind long after we are gone.
>
>
> --- The TechnoMagik
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 10:59:03PM -0700, Metatron YHVH wrote:
> > So technically, bitcoin is code.
> >
> > How can code be anything but neutral?
> >
> > Just wondering.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Troy Benjegerdes <hozer@???>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 10:07:51AM -0400, nt0n0m wrote:
> > > > Hmmm, Are there sides...?
> > > > Is there right & wrong...?
> > > > Are we right ...?
> > > > Are they wrong ...?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, Yes, Yes & Yes, surprisingly...
> > > >
> > > > I even recently held some New Age beliefs, most of us do in some way.
> > > > I have recently been purged of these by Mark Passio.
> > > >
> > > > How to Define Right: Humans have the Right to do anything they want
> > > > which does not interfere with another's Rights. This is our Right &
> > > > other men's law is irrelevant & does not truly apply.
> > > >
> > > > You may NOT initiate the use of force, steal another's free will or
> > > > steal their possessions.
> > >
> > > Anonymity enables someone to initiate force, steal free will and
> > > posessions,
> > > and if done properly, make it impossible for me to identify who I
> should
> > > avoid any dealings with in the future.
> > >
> > > I do not know how to resolve this conflict, other than through personal
> > > transparency, or the opposite of anonymity.
> > >
> > > I'm perfecly happy to let someone be anonymous, but I have no
> obligation
> > > to use anonymous cryptosystems
> > >
> > > > Everything else is Right & not bad.
> > > >
> > > > >>I like to do bad things to consenting adults in the privacy of my
> > > bedroom.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We have been manipulated to accept a whole host of "bad" things
> > > > which are not bad.
> > > >
> > > > & we have been manipulated to accept Wrong things as right. Like
> > > > war. & Government.
> > >
> > > We can talk all day about identifying what is 'wrong' or which side is
> bad,
> > > but unless you're willing to publicly stand in front of a tank, it's
> all
> > > talk. If there is someone 'against the side of Right', then what are we
> > > doing
> > > to place ourselves in the path of them? I only see anonymity as an
> excuse
> > > to
> > > allow anonymously throwing up roadblocks that the government can then
> run
> > > over with no real consequences.
> > >
> > >
> > > > >>Subjective jargon will only get us so far anyway. My point is
> you're
> > > wasting time with this identification process.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Metatron, Your infinite soul is in a body right now. That body has
> > > > Rights which a certain group of people are seeking to steal from you
> > > > & from everyone else through deceitful trickery. The ideology that
> > > > all is subjective; made up by our perceptions is called Solopsism.
> > > > It is nothing new & it has been fed to us to ensure we never seek to
> > > > defend ourselves in the face of great evil. If you believe there is
> > > > no objective truth & that all is subjective then why even
> > > > communicate to others since we will all make up what is meant in our
> > > > own minds anyways... Adopting Solopsism means everything is
> > > > pointless & Truth cannot be known.
> > > >
> > > > The New Age is over. We are now in the Age of fighting this
> > > > monstrous abomination which threatens to destroy Human beings & the
> > > > entire planet. It is time to leave the fluff & find our Courage &
> > > > focus to stand up for what is RIGHT. You will meet Metatron when
> > > > this life is over, until then we have important work to do.
> > > > If we don't do it, NO-ONE ELSE WILL.
> > > >
> > > > May you join our side & fight the good fight with us. We need you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 02/08/14 18:51, jamileh s.t. wrote:
> > > > >when someone tries to do bad things you should try to stop them
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > hozer@???
> > > 7 elements earth::water::air::fire::mind::spirit::soul
> > > grid.coop
> > >
> > > Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel,
> > > nor try buy a hacker who makes money by the megahash
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