I really enjoyed all that Troy. Thanks for taking the time to write it
- Julia Tourianski
> On Aug 6, 2014, at 11:44 PM, Troy Benjegerdes <hozer@???> wrote:
>
> Hypothesis:
>
> Code, corporations, cars, hand-forged iron artworks, and great ships of
> old are made of physical elements entrained with elements, aspects, and
> reflections of their creators mind, spirit, and soul.
>
> Experience:
>
> I say this because I have touched a mere thing in which I can sense something
> beyond the mere basic elemental arrangement. I do not know what is is of which
> I sense, only that there is quite a bit we have not discovered or quantified.
>
> You may be able to view code in isolation as neutral, but it interacts with
> and runs on hardware, which was touched by human artisans, and these artisans
> have left their mark on the hardware and financial ecosystem in which the
> code lives. So alone, the code may be neutral, but without cicuits, memory,
> transistors, and electric flow to power it, and finance to feed the electro
> systems, it is nothing. In live action, there is a reflection of the souls of
> the makers of the systems
>
> Conclusion:
>
> We can let the system make us, or we can make the system. I happen to think
> most of us on the unSystem choose to be makers, and we should take care of
> the code and thoughts we will leave behind long after we are gone.
>
>
> --- The TechnoMagik
>
>
>> On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 10:59:03PM -0700, Metatron YHVH wrote:
>> So technically, bitcoin is code.
>>
>> How can code be anything but neutral?
>>
>> Just wondering.
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Troy Benjegerdes <hozer@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 10:07:51AM -0400, nt0n0m wrote:
>>>> Hmmm, Are there sides...?
>>>> Is there right & wrong...?
>>>> Are we right ...?
>>>> Are they wrong ...?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Yes, Yes & Yes, surprisingly...
>>>>
>>>> I even recently held some New Age beliefs, most of us do in some way.
>>>> I have recently been purged of these by Mark Passio.
>>>>
>>>> How to Define Right: Humans have the Right to do anything they want
>>>> which does not interfere with another's Rights. This is our Right &
>>>> other men's law is irrelevant & does not truly apply.
>>>>
>>>> You may NOT initiate the use of force, steal another's free will or
>>>> steal their possessions.
>>>
>>> Anonymity enables someone to initiate force, steal free will and
>>> posessions,
>>> and if done properly, make it impossible for me to identify who I should
>>> avoid any dealings with in the future.
>>>
>>> I do not know how to resolve this conflict, other than through personal
>>> transparency, or the opposite of anonymity.
>>>
>>> I'm perfecly happy to let someone be anonymous, but I have no obligation
>>> to use anonymous cryptosystems
>>>
>>>> Everything else is Right & not bad.
>>>>
>>>>>> I like to do bad things to consenting adults in the privacy of my
>>> bedroom.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We have been manipulated to accept a whole host of "bad" things
>>>> which are not bad.
>>>>
>>>> & we have been manipulated to accept Wrong things as right. Like
>>>> war. & Government.
>>>
>>> We can talk all day about identifying what is 'wrong' or which side is bad,
>>> but unless you're willing to publicly stand in front of a tank, it's all
>>> talk. If there is someone 'against the side of Right', then what are we
>>> doing
>>> to place ourselves in the path of them? I only see anonymity as an excuse
>>> to
>>> allow anonymously throwing up roadblocks that the government can then run
>>> over with no real consequences.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Subjective jargon will only get us so far anyway. My point is you're
>>> wasting time with this identification process.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Metatron, Your infinite soul is in a body right now. That body has
>>>> Rights which a certain group of people are seeking to steal from you
>>>> & from everyone else through deceitful trickery. The ideology that
>>>> all is subjective; made up by our perceptions is called Solopsism.
>>>> It is nothing new & it has been fed to us to ensure we never seek to
>>>> defend ourselves in the face of great evil. If you believe there is
>>>> no objective truth & that all is subjective then why even
>>>> communicate to others since we will all make up what is meant in our
>>>> own minds anyways... Adopting Solopsism means everything is
>>>> pointless & Truth cannot be known.
>>>>
>>>> The New Age is over. We are now in the Age of fighting this
>>>> monstrous abomination which threatens to destroy Human beings & the
>>>> entire planet. It is time to leave the fluff & find our Courage &
>>>> focus to stand up for what is RIGHT. You will meet Metatron when
>>>> this life is over, until then we have important work to do.
>>>> If we don't do it, NO-ONE ELSE WILL.
>>>>
>>>> May you join our side & fight the good fight with us. We need you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 02/08/14 18:51, jamileh s.t. wrote:
>>>>> when someone tries to do bad things you should try to stop them
>>>>>
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