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I could use a little visibility if you agree with this post.
Droves of what I suspect are payed downvoters are censoring what gets
visibility & what doesn't lately. Standard social media manipulation.

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http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2bv2tn/bitlicense_may_be_a_testing_of_the_waters/

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"Bitlicense" may be a testing of the waters...

Bitlicense may be a testing of the waters by our global financial &
political lawmakers.

If we accept this threat without ORGANIZING & innovating workarounds to
this spanking we just received, they will roll this out in country after
country. All of a sudden darkwallet, darkmarket & darkcoin don't seem so
threatning, do they ? An NSA list of all bitcoin users' IP addresses is
unacceptable.

We also need a bitcoin foundation alternative. It's time to organize as
if we were a lawyers bar association or an International Monetary
Council. Bitcoin's opponents are highly organized & are all on the same
page. If bitcoin fails, could we say we did everything in our power to
bring it to the rest of the world ?

Without open incorruptible non-debt based money, the world's poorest 3
billion have no hope at all for the future...

This is a really big deal actually & I want to be able to say I did my
best to help.

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Keep up the good work Unsystemers,

n


On 7/24/2014 11:34 AM, Tim Patrick wrote:
> Anybody associated with Chuck Shumer is a fucking rat in my opinion,
> they are all part of the "ban this" or "regulate this" society that
> exists in America. They want to ban or regulate anything they don't
> understand.
>
> On Thursday, July 24, 2014, jamileh s.t. <xiaziyna@???
> <mailto:xiaziyna@googlemail.com>> wrote:
>
>     " he joked about dogecoin" can you believe it!!!!!!!! such a normal
>     fun guy!!!!!!

>
>
>     On 24 July 2014 16:06, Amir Taaki <genjix@???
>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','genjix@???');>> wrote:

>
>         http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2aycxs/hi_this_is_ben_lawsky_at_nydfs_here_are_the/

>
>         people are like "oh dear, we need better legislation" without
>         realising
>         the foot in the door danger. it's like the used car salesman who
>         rips
>         you off with an overpriced crappy car which you jump on after
>         "he speaks
>         to the boss" (i.e smokes a ciggy), knocking down his initial
>         high offer.
>         wow! what a bargain!

>
>         G8 magazine, June 2013 "Protecting digital economies": "If the
>         leaders
>         of the European Union and United States could be convinced to take a
>         lead on these initiatives [banning Bitcoin], that would be a huge
>         contribution to making the internet a safe place for financial
>         transactions. At the same time, it would also strike a blow against
>         those who would try to destroy the fabric of our world’s
>         well-being."

>
>         JP Morgan, Feb 2014 "The audacity of Bitcoin": "But followers of
>         financial history know the limitation of a system based on a
>         fixed or
>         slow-growing money supply: it imposes uncomfortable financial
>         discipline
>         on governments, households and corporates. [i.e governments,
>         consumers,
>         the corporations" (goes on to talk about how printing dollars
>         was used
>         to fund WW1 and the Vietnam war as a good thing)

>
>         ECB, Oct 2012 "Virtual currency schemes": "Authorities need to
>         consider
>         whether they intend to formalise or acknowledge and regulate these
>         schemes. In this regard, a likely suggestion could sooner or later
>         involve virtual currency scheme owners registering as financial
>         institutions with their local regulating authorities. This is a
>         similar
>         trajectory to the one PayPal has undergone, as it was granted a
>         banking
>         licence in Luxembourg in 2007 after its service became popular.
>         This is
>         not an easy step, but it looks like the only possible way to
>         strike a
>         proper balance between money and payment innovations on the one
>         hand,
>         and consumer protection and financial stability, on the other."

>
>         Mark my words. The problem is not with this regulation needing to be
>         fixed. They will probably tone down the proposal and it will be
>         hailed
>         as a victory within the community, yet be another step toward
>         normalisation of their activities.

>
>         http://www.coindesk.com/ben-lawsky-friend-foe/

>
>         "The choice for the regulators is: permit money laundering on
>         the one
>         hand, or permit innovation on the other, and we’re always going
>         to choose
>         squelching the money laundering first. It’s not worth it to
>         society to
>         allow money laundering and all of the things it facilitates to
>         persist in
>         order to permit 1000 flowers to bloom on the innovation side.”

>
>         funny he's affiliated with chuck schumer too who is a populist
>         and someone
>         who in the early days was very anti-bitcoin (silk road).

>
>         i love the whole tone of this propaganda piece which is like
>         "he's such a
>         nice guy". I bet he has good manners too.

>
>         maybe you all appreciate this article,

>
>         http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-dark-wallet-developers-plan-for-startup-governments-run-on-bitcoin

>
>
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