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> On Apr 29, 2014, at 10:05 PM, Troy Benjegerdes <hozer@???> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 10:33:24AM -0500, John Hebert wrote:
>>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:34 AM, Joerg Platzer <joerg@???> wrote:
>>>
>>> of course Bitcoin _is_ anarchism as it has no leader as long as we don't
>>> designate one and change the protocol in ways that allow to control it and
>>> hand that over to the leader.
>>>
>>
>> There is the problem. The Bitcoin Foundation's will spend $17 million USD
>> to become that "benevolent leader".
>>
>>
>>> These people are screaming for government regulation in order to save me
>>> from identity theft through Bitcoin. They wish to protect me and 'de-risk'
>>> Bitcoin.
>>
>>
>> Ye gods, save us from those who have "our best interests" in mind!
>>
>> Math provides certainty in lieu of placing trust in people calling for
>> government regulation. A correctly implemented bitcoin system doesn't need
>> trust.
>
> Math provides me with a strong mechanism to verify my trust is well-placed.
>
> If I don't trust the guy I'm selling corn to not to shoot me in the head
> after unloading the commmodity, the math is quite certain if the guy aims
> properly I'm dead.
>
> Math gives me more choices about who I can trust, instead of guys with guns
> telling me who I can trust.
>
> But trust is still the key. Do I trust the people, the math, or the guys
> with guns?
>
> I don't trust 95% of the code or proposals on bitcoin-dev because 95% of the
> developers posting are drawing salaries from people I fundamentally do not
> trust, because they tend to fall back on 'regulation' which eventually implies
> guns when things do not profit them.
>
>
> The point is, you still need trust.
>
> -- 
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> Troy Benjegerdes                 'da hozer'                  hozer@???
> 7 elements      earth::water::air::fire::mind::spirit::soul        grid.coop

>
>      Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel,
>         nor try buy a hacker who makes money by the megahash

>
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