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Author: ben
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To: System undo crew
Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] Foundation funding for Dark Wallet (Was: Don't mix because of taint + comments ...)
"There are no $20 bills without cocain on them." (Bitcoin will at least not
give us hepatitis.. ;)


2014-05-22 2:14 GMT+02:00 Joerg Platzer <joerg@???>:

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> I am a member of the foundation but many of you have seen and heard me
> personally ranting about it, louder, clearer and more public than some
> bonkers on mailing-lists or paranoid reddit-threads.
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> The reason, why I am still a member is because I see a clear struggle
> going on inside foundation between the 'let's get some regulation in
> here'-idiots on one hand and people with exactly the same spirit which is
> expressed by most folks on this list here and which I share on the other
> side.
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> I do so far believe that it is probably a good idea to keep that spirit up
> inside the foundation and not completely leave that playing field to the
> statists. I do admit that I am not so sure about this sometimes and that I
> may be wrong though.
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> We could find out though. When the foundation is getting more and more
> occupied and infiltrated by these people, who do not share the
> free-thinking and freedom-loving spirit which we have, then why not try
> counter-infiltrate that group?
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> What if a group of dark-wallet / dark-market enthusiasts (of which I am
> one) forms a group inside the foundation and demands funding for precisely
> these projects without compromising on any of the functionality? This might
> get more support than you believe.
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> And, while we're at it: why not be real about it and actually UNlicensing
> the code of dark wallet, which as far as know, is actually still under some
> statist-license, actually relying on the armed power of the government to
> enforce it?
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> Just ideas on a rainy warm summer evening ...
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> *Von:* unSYSTEM [unsystem-bounces@???]" im Auftrag von "Matt [
> millsdmb@???]
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 22. Mai 2014 00:33
> *An:* System undo crew
> *Betreff:* Re: [unSYSTEM] Don't mix because of taint + comments about
> exchanges doing taint analysis
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> Thankfully, Dark Wallet will keep me sane amidst these crazy people who
> say they speak in my best interests when all I hear is ideas for
> destruction of bitcoin's fungiblity.
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> I will worry most on the first day that one of my transactions gets
> blocked by BitPay, for being dirty. I've already gotten coins from
> blockchain.info's sharedcoin marked "FLEXCOIN STOLEN COINS". Spent
> without issue, the way it should be.
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>  *       Meanwhile people are jumping for the $10 without realising they
> are the product, and are            helping further the development of
> blacklisting and surveillance technologies (wonder why           Circle has
> hired Mike Hearn
> <http://www.coindesk.com/circle-advisory-board-members-burns-appointment/>[4] ).*

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> such a amazingly true insight, too, Amir.
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> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:
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>> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/25yhtn/my_worry_with_bitcoin_as_a_network_engineer/chm5ufl?context=3
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>> you rant and you rave but you look crazy.
>> conspiracies aren't real until the proof is undeniable.
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>> On 05/21/2014 11:45 PM, Matt wrote:
>> > and it's all under the guise of the "best interests" of the community.
>> > These guys make me sick.
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>> > Regards,
>> > Matt Milsap
>> > 203.837.6743 (mobile)
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>> >
>> >>>     On 05/21/2014 12:59 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
>> >>>>     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si-2niFDgtI&t=2m28s
>> >>>>     "you must ask myself, are my coins likely to be worse than who
>> i'm
>> >>>>     mixing with"

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>> >>>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si-2niFDgtI&t=4m01s
>> >>>>     "any exchange worth its salt will have taint analysis"

>> >>>>
>> >>>>     sketchy

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