> Hey all, my friend of like over ten years is backpacking around Europe
> while he's studying abroad this summer (3 months). He's already visited
> London, Istanbul, and Turkey. He'll be in Barcelona for the next 3 days.
> Is there any of you who'd be willing to hook up with him or introduce
> him to some people to show him around Europe? I really want him to see
> some cool stuff there and meet some cool people because he's pretty much
> all alone for the next 3 months and doesn't know anyone. He's 21 years
> old and English speaker only by the way, just for some context. He's
> anti-establishment, but doesn't know much about
> computing/programming/security, but he does like Bitcoin.
>
> Many parts of his trip are unscheduled so that he can explore freely.
> He's a really cool guy and a good friend, if any of you can help that
> would be really awesome and another great instance of the internet
> acting as the greatest invention of all fucking time!!
>
> hope youre all doing well. I love reading all the messages I get from
> all of you.
>
> -alec
>
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 20, 2014 at 5:42 PM
> *From:* "Mats-Erik Pistol" <meapistol@???>
> *To:* "System undo crew" <unsystem@???>
> *Subject:* Re: [unSYSTEM] Uber threatening cushty taxi drivers monopoly
> while they cry "who will protect the passengers!"
> Thinking just a little it is also clear that the new p2p darkmarket
> systems being programmed should include options for people to rent out a
> room, apartment, house, parking space, car, ... putting some pressure on
> Airbnb. If a common reputation system can be built it will be very
> costly to mount sting attacks. It will also be very difficult to track
> how much a subletter makes. The amount of cars parked and empty rooms in
> the world is staggering.
> I see another revolution in the making.
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 2:40 PM, <coco@???> wrote:
>
> a similar lawsuit has been started by spanish transport business
> companies cluster (FENE) (in march) at all posible courts recently
> against a thriving website for travel-sharing around europe, but
> specially for travel-sharing around spain. there are older ones in
> europe but not that much growing nowadays i'm quite sure..
>
>
> a video from one of the founders, where they say they (blablacar.es
> <http://blablacar.es>) are p2p website-platform....
> http://allthingsd.com/video?s=blablacar
>
> their non-free software is based in gmaps travel expenses calculator
> API, which could be the criminilaty here....
>
> btw, blablacar they are implementing an optional (still...) system
> where you put money into your blabla account via bank, pay to
> blablacar mediating for booking x travel, and blabla notifies the
> driver you have paid. when you go to travel you confirm the driver
> brought you at destination and they pay him what you gave, (after
> getting a small "tax" for blabla i guess, but i am not actually sure
> how much, i never did).
>
> bitcoin and blabla escrows? for this bookings operating makes sense.
>
>
>
> blablacar is growing very much and making further communiting around
> the factual sharing culture it helps creating, such as presential
> meetings and tools for drivers sharing their cars between them are
> too hard to achieve now because we have a centralized selfcentered
> company at the top of and in the middle of it.
>
>
> getting into more polemics for such new safer scenarios to be built,
> my bet is for travel sharing that drivers say: 'i have to go there
> alone or with people yes or yes, please dear user: pay your 20% of
> the petrol and invite me to one in the way', the slogan of our app
> could then be "We have the best drivers in" :), it looks a very
> cheap project to achieve for much quick good it could bring.. i'm up
> for it...
>
> perhaps a feature reducing a 30% of what gmaps says it cost is
> safer... i don't know how it calculates the travel cost in kuwait
> though..
>
>
>
>
>
>
> El 2014-05-20 01:32, Jonathan Vaage escribió:
>
> Perhaps drivers may be more willing to accept the risk of a sting if
> they had the opportunity to purchase a form of insurance policy that
> covered a portion of the fines / penalties in the potentially rare
> case of a bust. Proof-of-burn pseudonyms, customer ratings, or a
> web-of-trust could reduce the risk of fraud and potentially the
> premiums for policy holders.
>
> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Mats-Erik Pistol
> <meapistol@???> wrote:
>
>
> For me it looks like an uber-like app but without a central
> company
> would be an instant hit.
> Payment of the rides in cash to avoid payment tracing. A
> reputation
> system or web of trust to more or less whitelist customers
> to make
> sting operations expensive as mentioned by Ranvier.
> One could also envision transports being arranged this way.
>
> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Justus Ranvier
> <justusranvier@???> wrote:
>
>
> On 05/08/2014 06:38 PM, Kristov Atlas wrote:
>
> We can make this system shutdown-proof by
> blockchaining it, but
>
> of
>
> course criminals can still attack people in
> meatspace. Similar
>
> challenge
>
> with LocalBitcoins/Soft ATM approach for exchanging
>
> crypto-currencies
>
> for cash. :-(
>
> Any ideas on how to deal with this weakness?
>
>
> They can't outlaw people who own cars from giving rides
> to other
> people,
> they can just outlaw (regulate) the act of doing it for
> payment.
>
> First thing to do is make it difficult for an uninvolved
> third
> party to
> prove the any payment has occurred. That's fairly easy
> to do with
> you're
> talking about decentralized digital currencies.
>
> The second thing to do reduce the risk of a sting
> operation. This
> is
> basically the same problem that prostitutes run into and
> one of
> the ways
> that industry solves it is by rating customers.
>
> Driver who are willing to take on the risk of an unrated
> customer
> would
> charge more and drivers who don't want the risk would charge
> less.
>
> Perhaps some kind of web-of-trust could be used here, and
> actually such
> a system would have many applications in the informal
> economy
> generally.
>
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