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$community=$tyranny; 

function anarchy($individual){
     foreach($individual=>$many){
         if($coersion){return $resistance;}
         else {return $freedom;}
     }// end foreach
}// end function anarchy();


On 5/3/2014 12:02 PM, Philip Glover wrote:
>
> I agree completely, I am not suggesting that the individual should ever look to the majority of
> his peers to determine proper or moral action. There should be no decision making body, such as a
> parliament or Supreme Court, to tell an individual what he must do or what is right.
>
> I believe true community is developed and supported through peer-to-peer interactions, or more
> simply, through personal relationships. It is through these forms of voluntary association, with
> utmost respect for the individual, that every member of a society can learn how to bring about
> mutual benefit for both oneself and the group (or other individuals). Therefore, it is the
> voluntary actions of individuals that the secure and improve the future for the collective.
>
> I see the peer-review of one's values, the act of seeking the perspective of those you choose
> associate with, as a method to assist each individual in staying true to his values in his actions.
>
> On May 3, 2014 11:35 AM, "Amir Taaki" <genjix@??? <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>> wrote:
>
>     No collective rule always leads to requiring consent from the majority
>     and hence constrained by the lowest common denominator. From my
>     experience communities which emphasise autonomy and individual freedom
>     are ones which thrive. We should find ways to avoid and resolve conflict
>     that don't require parliaments and tons of globally binding laws that
>     regulate our lives - if you want to do something, you shouldn't need
>     permission of the majority.

>
>     Although community is important, as it's through our peers that we can
>     achieve welfare and rise up stronger than we are alone. Indeed society
>     itself is a life support network.

>
>     On 03/05/14 19:09, Philip Glover wrote:
>     > I believe this is best achieved with peer-review of one's actions. As
>     > anarchs, we must exemplify self-rule, holding ourselves to higher,
>     > self-determined standards than those offered by our current systems.
>     >
>     > Our trusted peers can keep us accountable with respect to the values we
>     > share, and through this free association, we will protect the collective
>     > by respecting each individual.

>     >
>     > On May 3, 2014 9:01 AM, "Thomas Hartman" <thomas@???
>     <mailto:thomas@standardcrypto.com>
>     > <mailto:thomas@standardcrypto.com <mailto:thomas@standardcrypto.com>>> wrote:

>     >
>     >     Balancing autonomy and community. The eternal dilemma.

>     >
>     >     On May 3, 2014 7:55 AM, "יוסי ק" <y-kuba1@??? <mailto:y-kuba1@hotmail.com>
>     >     <mailto:y-kuba1@hotmail.com <mailto:y-kuba1@hotmail.com>>> wrote:

>     >
>     >         All this anarchy utopia shit sounds a little GAY and boring...
>     >         but governments who runs strictly on algorithm with p2p network
>     >         with no people in power positions who become  corrupt is COOL

>     >
>     >         Sent from my iPhone

>     >
>     >         On 3 May 2014, at 17:44, chiseeds@??? <mailto:chiseeds@riseup.net>
>     >         <mailto:chiseeds@riseup.net <mailto:chiseeds@riseup.net>> wrote:

>     >
>     >>         and diversity where people consent to be part of a system or
>     >>         to use such
>     >>         or such tools and services; not because there isn't other ways.

>     >>
>     >>>         responsibility, independence, understanding, assertiveness,
>     >>>         creativity

>     >>>
>     >>>         On 03/05/14 09:08, Philip Glover wrote:
>     >>>>         A world of mutual respect, responsibility, and liberty.

>     >>>>
>     >>>>         On May 2, 2014 10:04 PM, "Kristov Atlas"
>     >>>>         <author@??? <mailto:author@anonymousbitcoinbook.com>
>     >>>>         <mailto:author@anonymousbitcoinbook.com <mailto:author@anonymousbitcoinbook.com>>
>     >>>>         <mailto:author@anonymousbitcoinbook.com
>     <mailto:author@anonymousbitcoinbook.com>>> wrote:

>     >>>>
>     >>>>            A world of happy, healthy people who do not recognize the
>     >>>>         claim of
>     >>>>            thieves for a special moral category.

>     >>>>
>     >>>>            On 05/03/2014 12:20 AM, Anthony D'Onofrio wrote:
>     >>>>>            "we promote the world we want to see."

>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>            What world is that?

>     >>>>>

>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>            On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Damian
>     >>>>>         <i3inary@??? <mailto:i3inary@gmail.com> <mailto:i3inary@gmail.com
>     <mailto:i3inary@gmail.com>>
>     >>>>>            <mailto:i3inary@gmail.com <mailto:i3inary@gmail.com>>> wrote:

>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>                i've been on many journeys and very few ever have a
>     >>>>>                destination that is better than the journey itself.
>     >>>>>          meditate
>     >>>>>                during the journey and get stoked so you can create
>     >>>>>         an awesome
>     >>>>>                experience for yourself and everyone you are with.
>     >>>>>          daily
>     >>>>>                meditation to focus on principles/ideas/creativity
>     >>>>>         keeps your
>     >>>>>                gps nicely calibrated.

>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>                i believe anarchy is in harmony with nature/math (and
>     >>>>>                therefore a good focus of meditation) because this
>     >>>>>         reality at
>     >>>>>                the quantum level is just probability and anarchy is a
>     >>>>>                practice that allows for the greatest variety of
>     >>>>>                manifestations.  focusing on things that are in
>     >>>>>         harmony with
>     >>>>>                nature always gets better results.

>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>                in the end anarchy and peaceful practices are
>     >>>>>         enhancing life
>     >>>>>                to create a better experience for everyone.

>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>                i get stoked on that!

>     >>>>>

>     >>>>>

>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>                On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Amir Taaki
>     >>>>>         <genjix@??? <mailto:genjix@riseup.net> <mailto:genjix@riseup.net
>     <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>>
>     >>>>>                <mailto:genjix@riseup.net <mailto:genjix@riseup.net>>> wrote:

>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>                    anarchism is what we strive towards & is a body
>     >>>>>         of thought.
>     >>>>>                    it is not a utopia, it is about the values we
>     >>>>>         would like
>     >>>>>                    to promote.
>     >>>>>                    i don't know the right way, nobody does.
>     >>>>>                    but we can look and try to strive forwards.
>     >>>>>                    we will never get there. oppression will always
>     >>>>>         exist.
>     >>>>>                    we promote the world we want to see.
>     >>>>>                    fight the power, stick it to the man. you are
>     >>>>>         sovereign.
>     >>>>>                    there is no greater good. there are people. you,
>     >>>>>         your
>     >>>>>                    friends, your comrades.
>     >>>>>                    we are strong. we are all rightful owners and
>     >>>>>         heirs of the
>     >>>>>                    planet.
>     >>>>>                    you are a sovereign individual. we can create
>     >>>>>         the change
>     >>>>>                    we want to see.

>     >>>>>

>     >>>>>

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>     >>>>>

>     >>>>>

>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>            --
>     >>>>>            --
>     >>>>>            Anthony D'Onofrio
>     >>>>> iamtexture@??? <mailto:iamtexture@gmail.com> <mailto:iamtexture@gmail.com
>     <mailto:iamtexture@gmail.com>>
>     >>>>>         <mailto:iamtexture@gmail.com <mailto:iamtexture@gmail.com>>
>     >>>>> 501.681.3225 <tel:501.681.3225> <tel:501.681.3225 <tel:501.681.3225>> <tel:501.681.3225
>     <tel:501.681.3225>
>     >>>>>         <tel:501.681.3225 <tel:501.681.3225>>>
>     >>>>>            -
>     >>>>>            Chaos Collider - Dream. Design. Develop. Deploy.
>     >>>>> http://www.chaoscollider.com
>     >>>>>            -
>     >>>>>            Peace.Love.Human.
>     >>>>> http://www.peacelovehuman.org

>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>            "Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself
>     >>>>>         what makes
>     >>>>>            you come alive and then go do that. Because what the
>     >>>>>         world needs
>     >>>>>            is people who have come alive." - Howard Thurman

>     >>>>>

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