On April 9, 2014 11:23:44 PM CEST, epsylon <epsylon@???> wrote:
>https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/04/08/julian-assange-debian-is-owned-by-the-nsa/
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i was at the talk by Paul at fosdem and muzt say i felt vry happy to hear the community is becoming conscious of such dynamics, some of us were considered paranoid when mentioning them in the past.

the web of trust cant hold well when is so big. imho to preserve the integrity of systems being developed is better to adopt an artisanal approach with a few people (and tight knit with upstream if its a distro), rather than let everything pass through a gigantic apparatus of pseudo-democracy that opens to such vulnerabilities as well favors mediocrity and lobbyst approaches on the long term.

one more reason to go for decentralization!

the little reassurance we can have now here, for those using mutt on debian/ubuntu: the maintainer of the package is one of our crew at dyne and extra attention has been used for its integrity.

for cloud services we'll be going the docker.io way, i recommend giving it a spin and share some repos and receipts maybe.

ciao