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Author: Jacob
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To: System undo crew
Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] Totalitarianism is simply the default state of the client/server model
teaching a man how to fish? wtf, even backward tribes in the amazon and
stonage man, know how to fish, please again this is about bitcoin and
crypto stuff, so can the mod just delete the post,
I was here to do tech stuff, not to listen to peace core rants.


On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Caleb James DeLisle <cjd@???> wrote:

> I'm sorry if I've disturbed you. If this list is strictly about technology
> then it is probably not a place for me.
> I have some additional thoughts in response to comments here and on
> socialswarm-discuss which I wanted to share.
>
> There is a parallel thread on socialswarm-discussion@??? so if
> this thread is offensive then we can move.
>
> ----
>
> A few thoughts:
>
> I just threw 3 years of my life into cjdns and I'm now coming to the
> conclusion that it's not solving the real problem. Forgive me, I'm not in
> my best form.
>
> Wikipedia is proof that an alternative can not only exist but can garner
> the #1 space on every google search, all is not lost.
>
> I value art, music, and literature and some will be far better than I can
> ever hope to be at all of these but long ago society decided that nomatter
> what a great musician or artist you may be, you will be compelled to attend
> school and learn to read because the threat to democracy of an illiterate
> populous was too grave to accept. In this world with a computer on every
> desk and in every pocket, everybody has an obligation to have a certain
> level of understanding of these things.
>
> I must remember that as a child, I didn't want to learn how to read either
> and I distinctly recall telling my parents I would simply invent a machine
> to make people not need to know how to read. Forgiveness is deserved.
>
> All of the concentration on usability is, as we would say in the US,
> barking up the wrong tree. We will never be able to make open source
> projects more "usable" than facebook and their army of designers, we
> can only hope to flatten the field with eduction.
>
> The 19th and 20th century compulsory education model will never succeed
> here, every university CS class I've attended was teaching 5-10 year old
> CS *history*.
>
>
> tl;dr give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach him how to fish and
> he'll be fed for a lifetime, or maybe he'll just sit in a boat and drink
> beer :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 03/24/2014 02:23 PM, Jacob wrote:
> > I seriously dont know what this ranting f this has to do with bitcoin...
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Manfred Karrer <mk@???> wrote:
> >
> >> "Today our world runs on silicon and bits, the written language of the
> day
> >> is code and in this sea of information, anyone who remains illiterate
> does
> >> so by choice. "
> >>
> >> Remembers me on Vilém Flussers Medienkultur, one of the philosophical
> >> grandfathers of the internet.
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 24.03.2014 um 11:04 schrieb Caleb James DeLisle <cjd@???>:
> >>
> >>> I felt that I had to express something so I wrote it and gave it a
> >> domain.
> >>> http://thewebmustdie.com/
> >>>
> >>> tl;dr cjd is being a princess again, it happens.
> >>>
> >>> Caleb
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