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Author: Guido Dassori
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To: System undo crew
Subject: [unSYSTEM] Fwd: Re: BANK RUN! - P2P Fiat-Bitcoin Exchange
Hi everyone,
I was only a lurker till today but, I think this is a very interesting
project and I want give out my contrib. I always wanted a p2p exchange:
You have my sword :)

I'm a not-so-skilled python developer and -told this- I think you guys
could work on the code truly much better than me.

Anyway, I worked as project manager for a long time and I know how this
things works: You'll probably need people which write documentation,
someone for the "marketing" to spread the things,a useful person for
fundraising and project presentation and.. so on.

So I "apply" myself to the project :) with the hope that my work could
help it to grow big and strong.

Guido Dassori
mn3monic @ dyne\freenode
gdassori @ btctalk
Italy

> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Manfred Karrer <mk@???
> <mailto:mk@nucleo.io>> wrote:
>
>     I just created a project development thread
>     (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=465326.0) intended for
>     open and transparent communication for the development process.

>
>     If anybody interested to join/contribute to the project please
>     join there, so we can start working on it.

>
>     I am in contact now with about 7 people so lets see how to get the
>     thing rolling...

>
>     Topics to discuss:
>     - Check the overall concept and test it there are open flaws
>     - Structure the development process
>     - Design the basic architecture
>     - Choose the technology to implement
>     - Funding models
>     - Organisational structure
>     - ...

>
>     As soon as we have agreed on a project name, I will register a
>     domain and we can setup our own forum/wiki,... there. The thread
>     is just intended for a first start....
>     I am working on an update for the paper to clearify and address
>     some open questions/issues.

>
>     br,
>     Manfred

>
>
>     Am 14.02.2014 um 02:23 schrieb Washington Sanchez
>     <washington.sanchez@??? <mailto:washington.sanchez@gmail.com>>:

>
>>     @Manfred:

>>
>>     Not on OT dev team, just working on the conceptual design of the
>>     TradeNet/Bazaar. Will post my proposal soon.

>>
>>     @Adam:

>>
>>     Unsystem forum?

>>
>>     @Everyone:

>>
>>     First name is Washington (drwasho), last name is Sanchez... don't
>>     mind which of these you call me!

>>
>>
>>     On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Adam Gibson <ekaggata@???
>>     <mailto:ekaggata@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>
>>         Sanchez, Manfred,
>>         This is what dansmith is doing now (integration of fiat
>>         transfer into OT).

>>
>>         Adam/waxwing on the forums.

>>
>>         On 02/14/2014 07:58 AM, Manfred Karrer wrote:
>>         > Thanks Sanchez!
>>         >
>>         > Open Transaction I was not considering yet as an
>>         implementation technology, but definitely worth to evaluate.
>>         > Until yet I was mostly focussed on the conceptional part.
>>         > Are you working with OT?

>>         >

>>         >

>>         >
>>         > Am 14.02.2014 um 00:40 schrieb Washington Sanchez
>>         <washington.sanchez@???
>>         <mailto:washington.sanchez@gmail.com>>:

>>         >
>>         >> Hey Manfred,
>>         >> First off, I want to give you sufficient kudos for taking
>>         the time and effort to think about this problem... we need
>>         more people like you tackling the big problems.
>>         >> It appears that most of this can be executed on top of
>>         Open Transactions... which I believe should be your approach
>>         here, rather than trying to reinvent the wheel.
>>         >> Open Transactions is fundamentally peer to peer, as in
>>         transactions between OT wallets is p2p as well as
>>         transactions between a wallet and Federated Server (which is
>>         necessary in the case of a central issuer)... combined with
>>         BitMessage (as you already discuss), you have a powerful
>>         combination of platforms to achieve your aims.
>>         >> The big problem at the moment is discovery of participants
>>         willing to perform this type of transaction, which is
>>         something that the OT dev team are working on (called the
>>         'Bazaar')
>>         >> Here are a few resources RE the last point that should help:
>>         >> OT + BitMessage for p2p exchanges:
>>         >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212490.0;all
>>         >> Lex Cryptographia (don't this miss one, it's a work of art
>>         and will give you ideas for reputation systems and managing
>>         counter-party risk in a near-trustless manner)

>>         >>
>>         http://bitcoinism.blogspot.com.au/2013/12/lex-cryptographia.html
>>         >> - drwasho

>>         >>

>>         >>

>>         >>
>>         >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Manfred Karrer
>>         <mk@??? <mailto:mk@nucleo.io>> wrote:
>>         >> I have written a concept for a P2P Fiat-Bitcoin Exchange.
>>         >> I am looking for developers so if you are interested, let
>>         me know!
>>         >> Otherwise any comment or review is highly appreciated!

>>         >>

>>         >>
>>         >> BANK RUN! - P2P Fiat-Bitcoin Exchange

>>         >>
>>         >> Basics:
>>         >> - Pure P2P, cannot shut down by a central authority, no
>>         3rd party involved.
>>         >> - Collateral as warranty for fair behavior
>>         >> - Fiat money will be transferred from one users bank
>>         account to the others bank account without any intermediary
>>         party. No identification that the money transaction is
>>         connected to a BCT trade.
>>         >> - No fees beside the standard BTC transaction fees.
>>         >> - Open source

>>         >>
>>         >> Here is the paper:

>>         >>
>>         https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d3EiWZdaM89-P6MVhS53unXv2-pDpSFsN3W4kCGXKgY

>>         >>
>>         >> High-level overview of the protocol:
>>         >> http://nucleo.io/bankrun/flow/bankrun.png

>>         >>

>>         >>
>>         >> Bitcointalk:
>>         >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462236.0

>>         >>
>>         >> Reddit:

>>         >>
>>         http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1xsona/bank_run_p2p_fiatbitcoin_exchange/

>>         >>
>>         >> br,
>>         >> Manfred

>>         >>

>>         >>

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>>         >>

>>         >>
>>         >> --
>>         >> -------------------------------------------
>>         >> Dr Washington Y. Sanchez
>>         >> Post-doctoral research officer
>>         >> Therapeutics Research Centre
>>         >> University of Queensland
>>         >> Princess Alexandra Hospital
>>         >> Woollongabba, 4102
>>         >> Queensland, Australia

>>         >

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>>     *Dr Washington Y. Sanchez*
>>     Post-doctoral research officer
>>     Therapeutics Research Centre
>>     University of Queensland
>>     Princess Alexandra Hospital
>>     Woollongabba, 4102
>>     Queensland, Australia
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