Yep. There you go. Just bootstrap bieber to the network and you have an
uncensorable network, right?

It's just a matter of time until the bieberchain breaks out into a
screaming, youthful, distributed existence.

Or has it already?

http://abis.io

> 8? i only got these 4,.., did i miss something?
>

>    "seed.bitcoin.sipa.be",
>     "dnsseed.bluematt.me",
>     "dnsseed.bitcoin.dashjr.org",
>     "bitseed.xf2.org",

>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Robert Williamson
> <bobalot@???>wrote:
>
>> This doesn't work too well when many people choose Justin bieber as one
>> of
>> their 'friends'.
>>
>> Bitcoin is bootstrapped by about 8 ish DNS seeds, but these only deliver
>> addr messages about other peers, which the client then begins
>> downloading
>> blocks from.
>> On 16 Feb 2014 16:49, "Caleb James DeLisle" <cjd@???> wrote:
>>
>>> Everybody links to a friend through a social graph.
>>> The data on the wire is udp with a 4 byte counter nonce and all
>>> crypto/garbage
>>> after that. It's not obfuscated but doesn't go out of it's way to
>>> identify itself.
>>> (I'm told it can be identified by Sandvine DPI boxes)
>>>
>>> I don't know of any reports to date of actual cjdns traffic being
>>> dropped/mangled.
>>>
>>> On 02/16/2014 11:45 AM, Jacob wrote:
>>> > I know btc is bootstrapped by 4 (?) nodes hardcoded into the
>>> source,..,
>>> how
>>> > is hyperboria bootstrapped ? and where are the nodes located (in wich
>>> main
>>> > domain).
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Caleb James DeLisle
>>> <cjd@???
>>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Wonder if they're dropping hyperboria.net yet
>>> >> like Russia
>>> >>
>>> http://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/comments/1wl74h/russian_isp_blocks_hyperborianrt/
>>> >> and China
>>> >> http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/index.php?siteurl=hyperboria.net
>>> >>
>>> >> #censorship #fail
>>> >>
>>> >> On 02/16/2014 09:50 AM, Jacob wrote:
>>> >>> Since most phones would play the role of a relay-hub it would
>>> require
>>> >>> continues operation,..., again we are back at the energy problem.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Interestingly enough there are already some meshnet tech taking
>>> >> advantage
>>> >>>> of mobile phones. it's just a matter of reprogramming them and
>>> voila
>>> -
>>> >> and
>>> >>>> of course, phone density is huge so the infrastructure is there
>>> >> already. I
>>> >>>> heard one was setup during shutdowns in Egypt(?) when the gov
>>> turned
>>> off
>>> >>>> the mobile phone towers.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On 16 February 2014 13:59, Robert Williamson <bobalot@???>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Try using WiFi continuously on your android phone. It'll burn
>>> through
>>> >> the
>>> >>>>> battery in a couple of hours under heavy load. WiFi on phones is
>>> >> inherently
>>> >>>>> short range too.
>>> >>>>> On 16 Feb 2014 13:48, "Jacob" <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Keeping the card in your pocket is not really exposing it to the
>>> sun
>>> >>>>>> either,
>>> >>>>>> Why dont they try an adriod app using the wifi/bluetooth
>>> capabilities
>>> >> of
>>> >>>>>> an adriod smartphone instead of making hardware from scratch?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Robert Williamson <
>>> bobalot@???
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> What they're describing isn't really currently possible, from
>>> an
>>> >>>>>>> engineering standpoint, the power requirements for continuous
>>> >> wireless and
>>> >>>>>>> occasional solar recharging won't fit into that form factor.
>>> >>>>>>> On 16 Feb 2014 13:37, "Jacob" <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> I checked progress on the bitcoincard, but its kindof silent
>>> >>>>>>>> http://bitcoincard.org/blog/
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> No updates, why, whats going on?
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Jacob
>>> <jacobusbogers@???
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> USA is the biggest economy, so not neglecting it,..,FCC
>>> forbids
>>> any
>>> >>>>>>>>> encryption on "packet radio" this extends to the application
>>> >> layer. I
>>> >>>>>>>>> don't see how oversees transmissions are possible with ISM .
>>> >> without long
>>> >>>>>>>>> wavelength transmissions. Continents are divided by oceans,
>>> there
>>> >> are no
>>> >>>>>>>>> ocean faring cities yet.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Drak <drak@???>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe in the USA, but the USA is not the rest of the world,
>>> and in
>>> >>>>>>>>>> any case this simply talks about encryption of the
>>> transmission.
>>> >> Ad hoc
>>> >>>>>>>>>> networks are allowed in the USA, there is whitespace to
>>> place
>>> >> with for
>>> >>>>>>>>>> short distances and the ruling only seems to apply to the
>>> >> transport layer.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> You cant apply that to protocols that might setup outside of
>>> the
>>> >> transport,
>>> >>>>>>>>>> above layers 2 and 3. The ruling also only applied to HAM
>>> >> frequencies, and
>>> >>>>>>>>>> we are not talking about HAM radio, but about using
>>> whitespace
>>> >> for adhoc
>>> >>>>>>>>>> networks.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Drak
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 13:14, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Actually not, there are open frequencies"
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No Link provided?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The FCC ruling is quite clear, no encryption on the
>>> transmission
>>> >> of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> radio packets.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-dismisses-encryption-petition
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Drak <drak@???>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Actually not, there are open frequencies. YMMV and there
>>> is
>>> also
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> this coming along: http://bitcoincard.org/ from the
>>> Mycelium
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> guys, watch the video, it's pretty impressive.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 12:30, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Never seen it before, but just to be clear,
>>> transmissions
>>> of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> encrypted data over HAM radio frequencies is a violation
>>> of
>>> >> FCC rules and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> brings criminal prosecution....
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So it seem we will be needing our own satalites,...,
>>> anyone
>>> >> has a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> phone nr of Elen Musk?)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Drak <drak@???>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you see this? http://www.openlibernet.org/
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 12:18, dávid <chaser@???>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's time to set up wireless mesh networks.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How long till Bitcoin packet filtering kicks in? Is it
>>> >> possible
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to identify and block those packets on an ISP-level? Or
>>> to
>>> >> block node
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discovery? Afaik, it's not end-to-end encrypted (or
>>> >> encrypted at all).
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/16/2014 12:33, Amir Taaki wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140211/19014226192/
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uk-govt-goes-extraterritorial-to-clean-up-web-ministers-
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking-to-block-extremist-videos-foreign-websites.shtml
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this makes me sad how predictable this all is. it's
>>> really
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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