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Author: Caleb James DeLisle
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Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] With Porn Filters Going Oh So Well, UK Roars Ahead In Expanding Them To Include 'Extremist' Content
Wonder if they're dropping hyperboria.net yet
like Russia http://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/comments/1wl74h/russian_isp_blocks_hyperborianrt/
and China http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/index.php?siteurl=hyperboria.net

#censorship #fail

On 02/16/2014 09:50 AM, Jacob wrote:
> Since most phones would play the role of a relay-hub it would require
> continues operation,..., again we are back at the energy problem.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
>
>> Interestingly enough there are already some meshnet tech taking advantage
>> of mobile phones. it's just a matter of reprogramming them and voila - and
>> of course, phone density is huge so the infrastructure is there already. I
>> heard one was setup during shutdowns in Egypt(?) when the gov turned off
>> the mobile phone towers.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 February 2014 13:59, Robert Williamson <bobalot@???> wrote:
>>
>>> Try using WiFi continuously on your android phone. It'll burn through the
>>> battery in a couple of hours under heavy load. WiFi on phones is inherently
>>> short range too.
>>> On 16 Feb 2014 13:48, "Jacob" <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Keeping the card in your pocket is not really exposing it to the sun
>>>> either,
>>>> Why dont they try an adriod app using the wifi/bluetooth capabilities of
>>>> an adriod smartphone instead of making hardware from scratch?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Robert Williamson <bobalot@???>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What they're describing isn't really currently possible, from an
>>>>> engineering standpoint, the power requirements for continuous wireless and
>>>>> occasional solar recharging won't fit into that form factor.
>>>>> On 16 Feb 2014 13:37, "Jacob" <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I checked progress on the bitcoincard, but its kindof silent
>>>>>> http://bitcoincard.org/blog/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No updates, why, whats going on?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> USA is the biggest economy, so not neglecting it,..,FCC forbids any
>>>>>>> encryption on "packet radio" this extends to the application layer. I
>>>>>>> don't see how oversees transmissions are possible with ISM . without long
>>>>>>> wavelength transmissions. Continents are divided by oceans, there are no
>>>>>>> ocean faring cities yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe in the USA, but the USA is not the rest of the world, and in
>>>>>>>> any case this simply talks about encryption of the transmission. Ad hoc
>>>>>>>> networks are allowed in the USA, there is whitespace to place with for
>>>>>>>> short distances and the ruling only seems to apply to the transport layer.
>>>>>>>> You cant apply that to protocols that might setup outside of the transport,
>>>>>>>> above layers 2 and 3. The ruling also only applied to HAM frequencies, and
>>>>>>>> we are not talking about HAM radio, but about using whitespace for adhoc
>>>>>>>> networks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Drak
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 13:14, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Actually not, there are open frequencies"
>>>>>>>>> No Link provided?
>>>>>>>>> The FCC ruling is quite clear, no encryption on the transmission of
>>>>>>>>> radio packets.
>>>>>>>>> http://www.arrl.org/news/fcc-dismisses-encryption-petition
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Actually not, there are open frequencies. YMMV and there is also
>>>>>>>>>> this coming along: http://bitcoincard.org/ from the Mycelium
>>>>>>>>>> guys, watch the video, it's pretty impressive.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 12:30, Jacob <jacobusbogers@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Never seen it before, but just to be clear, transmissions of
>>>>>>>>>>> encrypted data over HAM radio frequencies is a violation of FCC rules and
>>>>>>>>>>> brings criminal prosecution....
>>>>>>>>>>> So it seem we will be needing our own satalites,..., anyone has a
>>>>>>>>>>> phone nr of Elen Musk?)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Drak <drak@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you see this? http://www.openlibernet.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 February 2014 12:18, dávid <chaser@???> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's time to set up wireless mesh networks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How long till Bitcoin packet filtering kicks in? Is it possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to identify and block those packets on an ISP-level? Or to block node
>>>>>>>>>>>>> discovery? Afaik, it's not end-to-end encrypted (or encrypted at all).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/16/2014 12:33, Amir Taaki wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140211/19014226192/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uk-govt-goes-extraterritorial-to-clean-up-web-ministers-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking-to-block-extremist-videos-foreign-websites.shtml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this makes me sad how predictable this all is. it's really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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