Patrick, great point there. Agreed!

*Elizabeth T. Ploshay*
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On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Robert Jakob <rsjakob@???> wrote:

> I just think that was the point he was trying to make.
>
> -Robert
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Patrick Murck <
> patrick@???> wrote:
>
>> This is just my personal take on the "booth babe" thing. If you want to
>> trot out booth babes all you have accomplished is signaling to me that:
>>
>> 1) You don't believe in your product/service/value proposition
>> 2) You have poor taste and judgment
>> 3) And I won't be stopping by your booth for a sales pitch
>>
>> But hey, knock yourself out.
>>
>> --PM
>>
>> On January 29, 2014 at 10:42:12 PM, Jonathan James Harrison (
>> jonathanjamesharrison@??? <//jonathanjamesharrison@???>)
>> wrote:
>>
>> What about toilet cleaners at exhibitions they are objectified as
>> sanitation machines.
>> Booth babes know they are being objectified and get paid well to be
>> objectified.
>> Many men like to look at sexually attractive women which is very natural.
>> Booth babes can be great for promotions.
>> Nice thing about bitcoin is you can set up a company anonymously and if
>> you do that as women you know that there will be absolutely no
>> discrimination against you.
>> Satoshi maybe a black Serbian lesbian for all we know.
>>
>> On Thursday, 30 January 2014, Aimee Maree <aimee@???> wrote:
>>
>>> When performing surveys it is one of the number 1 reasons women don't
>>> attend tech conferences... So diversity is affected
>>>
>>> So booth babes are not about allowing women to be women it's about
>>> objectification which is wrong for men women and children oh and by the way
>>> those who are born with multi genders or a-sexual and animals etc we need
>>> to allow people to be themselves but we also need to allow minorities to
>>> feel comfortable if we are ever to change the rule of White Anglo men...
>>>
>>> So if you want sex you go to a sex shop that's all cool I'm fine with
>>> that I would like to see unions set up for prostitues personally however if
>>> I attend a tech conference I'm there for other reasons just like when I go
>>> to an underground party or when I attend a trans gender meet-up etc etc see
>>> my point here is horses for courses in regards to the booth babes
>>>
>>> Anyway these are just some points no way are they saying change your
>>> mind but just hey this is what the people who attend your conferences say
>>> and I personally would never attend a conference with a booth babe I have
>>> had enough problems being a technical women in IT let alone to be in a room
>>> where my gender is subjectified. So you can have your booth babes but a
>>> high number of women won't be at your conferences and you will sending a
>>> message to young girls sorry in IT your still seen as a joke!
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyways just some thoughts?
>>>
>>> On 30 Jan 2014, at 1:38 pm, Robert Jakob <rsjakob@???> wrote:
>>>
>>> That being said, there is a point to be made. I think "booth babes"
>>> are rather harmless. That kind of superficial lust can snowball into worse
>>> things like prostitution, sexual slaver, child marriages, etc... It's like
>>> the symptom of a deeper sickness. However, when you start down that path
>>> of dictating how a person should live, or act, or dress, or what kind of
>>> personality they should have, it becomes a slippery slope. It becomes a
>>> new disease. The whole reason we are all anti-establishment in the first
>>> place. If you infringe on another's right to be free and express
>>> themselves in any way that makes them happy, you become the oppressor.
>>>
>>> So I do agree with both sides of the argument. I abhor the
>>> objectification of human beings, and the superficial, and the
>>> materialistic, but I also believe free-will is the most fundamental human
>>> right.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Anthony D'Onofrio <iamtexture@???
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, obviously what I wrote was equivalent to calling Amir a whore and
>>> getting
>>> a group of people to ignorantly nod their heads in agreement.
>>>
>>> Anyway...
>>>
>>> Based on the overwhelming ridiculous response by everyone here today -
>>> this
>>> group is obviously not what I thought it was. Good luck with your
>>> lynchings.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 6:09 PM, Robert Jakob wrote:
>>>
>>> And condemning someone for their opinions is just as judgmental and
>>> hypocritical.
>>> On Jan 29, 2014 7:50 PM, "Anthony D'Onofrio" <iamtexture@???>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You didn't attack "culture". You attacked people. You didn't call
>>> culture a
>>> whore, you called actual people whores. People you don't know and who
>>> you have generalized about. You are spoken about as a genius and a
>>> visionary. Forgive me if I hold you to a standard you are not prepared
>>> to meet.
>>>
>>> If you hate your own nature then feel free to hate it. But we are all
>>> human
>>> and subject to the follies that come with that. Our individual
>>> circumstances
>>> are rolls of the dice. Calling someone a whore because she does not fit
>>> into
>>> the cultural stereotype you wish to prevail seems unnecessary.
>>>
>>> So what if you can get a few people to agree with you or a few women to
>>> back
>>> you because they feel the same way? A mob may be right insomuch as it may
>>> destroy all opposition, but that does not imply actual truth. Are
>>> beautiful women
>>> who aren't really very intelligent and end up in a circumstance where
>>> they are
>>> compelled to be a "booth babe" really to be hated so deeply? They can
>>> hardly
>>> be one of the primary threats to global peace and human unity.
>>>
>>> To me it seems apparent that the real enemy is fear and the actions that
>>> we
>>> commit out of fear - murder, violence, war, and lynching - verbal or
>>> physical.
>>> If we're going to claim some moral superiority then we should be
>>> prepared to
>>> live up to it. "I'm smart and you're dumb, so fuck you!" isn't really a
>>> great
>>> argument.
>>>
>>> If I am born smart does that make me virtuous? No.
>>> If I am born with less intelligence does that ensure my worthlessness?
>>> No.
>>>
>>> Some people are born beautiful, some aren't. Some are born intelligent,
>>> some
>>> aren't. Some are neither beautiful nor intelligent, and some are
>>> beautiful and
>>> intelligent. What does it matter? These are all rolls of the dice. Can
>>> we in good
>>> conscience hate based on race or gender? I think not. So why based on
>>> other
>>> arbitrary metrics do we consider it okay? Do you really feel like you
>>> have
>>> liberated yourself from the chains of your history? Have you overcome
>>> yourself,
>>> your relationship to your family, your ethnicity, and your intelligence
>>> to find
>>> yourself resting in a place of peace and lucidity so that you may move
>>> only with
>>> conscious volition? It seems the answer to that question is obvious.
>>>
>>> If you can't - with all your brains and superiority. Then what chance do
>>> these
>>> people you look down upon have? With genius comes power and with power
>>> responsibility. You may see t
>>>

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