That being said, there is a point to be made. I think "booth babes" are
rather harmless. That kind of superficial lust can snowball into worse
things like prostitution, sexual slaver, child marriages, etc... It's like
the symptom of a deeper sickness. However, when you start down that path
of dictating how a person should live, or act, or dress, or what kind of
personality they should have, it becomes a slippery slope. It becomes a
new disease. The whole reason we are all anti-establishment in the first
place. If you infringe on another's right to be free and express
themselves in any way that makes them happy, you become the oppressor.

So I do agree with both sides of the argument. I abhor the objectification
of human beings, and the superficial, and the materialistic, but I also
believe free-will is the most fundamental human right.


On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Anthony D'Onofrio <iamtexture@???>wrote:

> Yes, obviously what I wrote was equivalent to calling Amir a whore and
> getting
> a group of people to ignorantly nod their heads in agreement.
>
> Anyway...
>
> Based on the overwhelming ridiculous response by everyone here today -
> this
> group is obviously not what I thought it was. Good luck with your
> lynchings.
>
>
>
> On Jan 29, 2014, at 6:09 PM, Robert Jakob wrote:
>
> And condemning someone for their opinions is just as judgmental and
> hypocritical.
> On Jan 29, 2014 7:50 PM, "Anthony D'Onofrio" <iamtexture@???> wrote:
>
>> You didn't attack "culture". You attacked people. You didn't call culture
>> a
>> whore, you called actual people whores. People you don't know and who
>> you have generalized about. You are spoken about as a genius and a
>> visionary. Forgive me if I hold you to a standard you are not prepared to
>> meet.
>>
>> If you hate your own nature then feel free to hate it. But we are all
>> human
>> and subject to the follies that come with that. Our individual
>> circumstances
>> are rolls of the dice. Calling someone a whore because she does not fit
>> into
>> the cultural stereotype you wish to prevail seems unnecessary.
>>
>> So what if you can get a few people to agree with you or a few women to
>> back
>> you because they feel the same way? A mob may be right insomuch as it may
>> destroy all opposition, but that does not imply actual truth. Are
>> beautiful women
>> who aren't really very intelligent and end up in a circumstance where
>> they are
>> compelled to be a "booth babe" really to be hated so deeply? They can
>> hardly
>> be one of the primary threats to global peace and human unity.
>>
>> To me it seems apparent that the real enemy is fear and the actions that
>> we
>> commit out of fear - murder, violence, war, and lynching - verbal or
>> physical.
>> If we're going to claim some moral superiority then we should be prepared
>> to
>> live up to it. "I'm smart and you're dumb, so fuck you!" isn't really a
>> great
>> argument.
>>
>> If I am born smart does that make me virtuous? No.
>> If I am born with less intelligence does that ensure my worthlessness? No.
>>
>> Some people are born beautiful, some aren't. Some are born intelligent,
>> some
>> aren't. Some are neither beautiful nor intelligent, and some are
>> beautiful and
>> intelligent. What does it matter? These are all rolls of the dice. Can we
>> in good
>> conscience hate based on race or gender? I think not. So why based on
>> other
>> arbitrary metrics do we consider it okay? Do you really feel like you have
>> liberated yourself from the chains of your history? Have you overcome
>> yourself,
>> your relationship to your family, your ethnicity, and your intelligence
>> to find
>> yourself resting in a place of peace and lucidity so that you may move
>> only with
>> conscious volition? It seems the answer to that question is obvious.
>>
>> If you can't - with all your brains and superiority. Then what chance do
>> these
>> people you look down upon have? With genius comes power and with power
>> responsibility. You may see these people as icons of things that you find
>> repulsive and destructive, but they are just human beings. Tiny, mortal
>> beings
>> trapped between a great nothing and an infinity - trying to find a bit of
>> meaning
>> and love before they meet an uncertain end.
>>
>> I hope that we, in this position we find ourselves in - as builders of
>> the future -
>> take the time to avoid this mob-like hatred of the things that we fear
>> and instead
>> try to see them fully and act as protectors of our brothers and sisters,
>> not
>> tyrants who mistake the thoughts that live inside a mind for the actual
>> person.
>>
>> These people are our brothers and sisters. They may be lost, and it is
>> our job
>> to find the truth and bring it to them with the love and support that is
>> required
>> of our family. It doesn't matter how many people +1 or pat each other on
>> the
>> back. It is wrong to generalize and hate and It always will be. An angry
>> mob
>> can destroy a mind or burn a body but they can never move the truth.
>>
>> These people are not your oppressor. You need to look only in the
>> trenches of
>> your own mind to find that.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
>>
>> > Also there's a difference between a woman who is forced to prostitute
>> > because she is dependent or in bad situation, someone who just enjoys to
>> > do it (no problem with that either- personal choice) VS girls who use
>> > their sexuality to curry favour for personal benefits - *especially*
>> > when those benefits are bourgeoise.
>> >
>> > There are some really fucked up relationships that are basically a
>> > business arrangement. Many of them even involve kids and marriages. They
>> > have no love except a mutual arrangement. When the money dries up, the
>> > man loses his wife. When the woman gets old, she is worthless.
>> >
>> > And imagine the kids raised in those families!
>> >
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y2UPNjRvB8
>> >
>> > The blonde girl is reduced to tears because what Jane Elliott says, she
>> > knows deep down in her heart is true.
>> >
>> > On 30/01/14 00:00, Amir Taaki wrote:
>> >> What do you mean by superiority? I don't think all cultures are equally
>> >> valid. I don't mind putting down crap culture.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82WwqXyyWXg
>> >>
>> >> This is promoted by mainstream culture. Yet sex itself is a big taboo.
>> >> Instead of teaching teenagers about relationships, we push
>> >> celebrity/products/consumerism on them.
>> >>
>> >> We are not promoting healthy attitudes to life in general. The world is
>> >> fucked up because adults cannot have normal relationships with each
>> >> other. Sex is feared. Women are objects. Men want a pure woman.
>> >>
>> >> This is common throughout the world. Many men have it:
>> >>
>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93whore_complex
>> >>
>> >> There are Saudi princes who maintain whore-houses while raising a
>> family
>> >> with other women.
>> >>
>> >> On 29/01/14 22:38, Anthony D'Onofrio wrote:
>> >>> I'm making no comment on any systems.
>> >>> I'm saying you're claiming some sort of intellectual superiority
>> which you are
>> >>> neglecting to use towards those you do not feel an immediate cultural
>> connection with.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> We don't live in a world of victims and oppressors. Everyone is
>> >>>> complicit in some way.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 29/01/14 21:39, Amir Taaki wrote:
>> >>>>> Are you trying to make a statement about the system which forces
>> people
>> >>>>> to make compromises and are placed in a situation where they curry
>> >>>>> favour not through their actions as people. But is it so passive?
>> Would
>> >>>>> you say the same about Sabu who betrayed Hammond? In the end when we
>> >>>>> participate in a culture, we grow that culture too and are
>> responsible
>> >>>>> for carrying a situation we would prefer not to endure.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 29/01/14 21:30, Anthony D'Onofrio wrote:
>> >>>>>> Not everyone is born a genius. Those people have a place in the
>> world as
>> >>>>>> well.
>> >>>>>> Genius is a gift, compassion is a choice.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Elizabeth Ploshay wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> +1
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> */Elizabeth T. Ploshay/*
>> >>>>>>> elizabeth@??? <mailto:
>> elizabeth@???>
>> >>>>>>> Manager of Communications
>> >>>>>>> Bitcoin Magazine
>> >>>>>>> elizabethtploshay.com <http://elizabethtploshay.com/>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Liad Shababo <liad@???
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:liad@shababo.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Rough day?
>> >>>>>>> He got a double full page spread in London's biggest evening
>> >>>>>>> paper, which credited him amongst other things, as a genius.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> https://twitter.com/wollit/status/428575608709578753
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 29 Jan 2014, at 21:24, Anthony D'Onofrio <
>> iamtexture@???
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:iamtexture@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> You lost me at the dumb whores part.
>> >>>>>>>> Value does not stem from living up to any culturally-mandated
>> >>>>>>>> expectations.
>> >>>>>>>> Not culture at large and not yours or mine. Women should be
>> able
>> >>>>>>>> to dress
>> >>>>>>>> however they like and still demand respect and love. That
>> >>>>>>>> includes American,
>> >>>>>>>> Muslim, Asian, slutty, skimpy, nude, sexy, frumpy - whatever.
>> >>>>>>>> These women
>> >>>>>>>> are no less women because of the clothing they put on. They're
>> >>>>>>>> just like
>> >>>>>>>> everyone else - tiny people on a big world in an even larger
>> >>>>>>>> universe,
>> >>>>>>>> unsure of who they are and what they are, responding to the
>> >>>>>>>> environment
>> >>>>>>>> they found themselves in, the mental state they were born into,
>> >>>>>>>> and the
>> >>>>>>>> mental state of those around them.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Men respond to beautiful women. Even women respond to beautiful
>> >>>>>>>> women.
>> >>>>>>>> A very simple marketing tool is getting beautiful women to
>> stand
>> >>>>>>>> next to a
>> >>>>>>>> product. Or hand out a product. Or use a product. This is not
>> >>>>>>>> exploitative of
>> >>>>>>>> the beautiful women or reflective of their value. It is
>> >>>>>>>> reflective of us as a whole,
>> >>>>>>>> human animals - who are driven by impulses that are not
>> >>>>>>>> culturally mandated,
>> >>>>>>>> but which extend from our being as animals who require
>> >>>>>>>> procreation and
>> >>>>>>>> survival. This is exploitative of the men who are tricked into
>> >>>>>>>> associating this
>> >>>>>>>> product with beautiful women.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Sounds like you're having a rough day Amir. I hope it gets
>> better.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1wg481/hot_asian_chicks_giving_out_free_bitcoins_in_hong/
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> This is trash and degrading to women. People have endless
>> >>>>>>>>> discussions
>> >>>>>>>>> about girls in Bitcoin and then talk like this.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> And why? Because it's about promoting girls who find their
>> value
>> >>>>>>>>> through
>> >>>>>>>>> their sexuality + beauty, rather than what they objectively do
>> >>>>>>>>> as people.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Most of you who don't understand are kissless virgins who
>> will go
>> >>>>>>>>> through their life trying to buy the affection of women. Sex
>> is
>> >>>>>>>>> good,
>> >>>>>>>>> love is great... but this attitude of trying to push bitcoin
>> through
>> >>>>>>>>> sexy women with no brains vs pushing the smart women in our
>> >>>>>>>>> community is
>> >>>>>>>>> trash.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> For all the Bitcoiners who seek legitimacy/image and complain
>> >>>>>>>>> about me
>> >>>>>>>>> pushing drugs, where are the people saying this is wrong. This
>> >>>>>>>>> is one of
>> >>>>>>>>> the highest voted stories on the front page. What did these
>> >>>>>>>>> girls do to
>> >>>>>>>>> get that attention of all the Bitcoiners? And what about
>> >>>>>>>>> Elizabeth who
>> >>>>>>>>> works tirelessly on Bitcoin.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> We have smart capable women in our community, so why are we
>> >>>>>>>>> promoting
>> >>>>>>>>> these dumb whores? Who the fuck are they? Plastic girls with
>> big
>> >>>>>>>>> tits?
>> >>>>>>>>> Wow you're so cool. It reminds me of when the BF choose that
>> young
>> >>>>>>>>> plastic pretty spokesgirl to represent them on TV who knew
>> >>>>>>>>> nothing about
>> >>>>>>>>> bitcoin. And those BitPay adverts who use the girl in pretty
>> red
>> >>>>>>>>> lipstick to push their product. Why not promote a world based
>> on
>> >>>>>>>>> love
>> >>>>>>>>> with relationships established based on mutual understanding,
>> rather
>> >>>>>>>>> than promoting a world where men make money to fuck good
>> looking
>> >>>>>>>>> young
>> >>>>>>>>> bitches. 90% of you will never be in that bracket either.
>> >>>>>>>>>
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