yes it was mate and I am not some follower rofl or blindly agreeing I think your argument is lost in anger. I think we all hear what your said it could and should of been said better aka not using that word. But to then attack someone because you think they should be X or say Y is the same bloody thing sorry but I'm calling a spade a spade here...


anyways



> On 30 Jan 2014, at 1:18 pm, Anthony D'Onofrio <iamtexture@???> wrote:
>
> Yes, obviously what I wrote was equivalent to calling Amir a whore and getting
> a group of people to ignorantly nod their heads in agreement.
>
> Anyway...
>
> Based on the overwhelming ridiculous response by everyone here today - this
> group is obviously not what I thought it was. Good luck with your lynchings.
>
>
>
>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 6:09 PM, Robert Jakob wrote:
>>
>> And condemning someone for their opinions is just as judgmental and hypocritical.
>>
>>> On Jan 29, 2014 7:50 PM, "Anthony D'Onofrio" <iamtexture@???> wrote:
>>> You didn't attack "culture". You attacked people. You didn't call culture a
>>> whore, you called actual people whores. People you don't know and who
>>> you have generalized about. You are spoken about as a genius and a
>>> visionary. Forgive me if I hold you to a standard you are not prepared to meet.
>>>
>>> If you hate your own nature then feel free to hate it. But we are all human
>>> and subject to the follies that come with that. Our individual circumstances
>>> are rolls of the dice. Calling someone a whore because she does not fit into
>>> the cultural stereotype you wish to prevail seems unnecessary.
>>>
>>> So what if you can get a few people to agree with you or a few women to back
>>> you because they feel the same way? A mob may be right insomuch as it may
>>> destroy all opposition, but that does not imply actual truth. Are beautiful women
>>> who aren't really very intelligent and end up in a circumstance where they are
>>> compelled to be a "booth babe" really to be hated so deeply? They can hardly
>>> be one of the primary threats to global peace and human unity.
>>>
>>> To me it seems apparent that the real enemy is fear and the actions that we
>>> commit out of fear - murder, violence, war, and lynching - verbal or physical.
>>> If we're going to claim some moral superiority then we should be prepared to
>>> live up to it. "I'm smart and you're dumb, so fuck you!" isn't really a great
>>> argument.
>>>
>>> If I am born smart does that make me virtuous? No.
>>> If I am born with less intelligence does that ensure my worthlessness? No.
>>>
>>> Some people are born beautiful, some aren't. Some are born intelligent, some
>>> aren't. Some are neither beautiful nor intelligent, and some are beautiful and
>>> intelligent. What does it matter? These are all rolls of the dice. Can we in good
>>> conscience hate based on race or gender? I think not. So why based on other
>>> arbitrary metrics do we consider it okay? Do you really feel like you have
>>> liberated yourself from the chains of your history? Have you overcome yourself,
>>> your relationship to your family, your ethnicity, and your intelligence to find
>>> yourself resting in a place of peace and lucidity so that you may move only with
>>> conscious volition? It seems the answer to that question is obvious.
>>>
>>> If you can't - with all your brains and superiority. Then what chance do these
>>> people you look down upon have? With genius comes power and with power
>>> responsibility. You may see these people as icons of things that you find
>>> repulsive and destructive, but they are just human beings. Tiny, mortal beings
>>> trapped between a great nothing and an infinity - trying to find a bit of meaning
>>> and love before they meet an uncertain end.
>>>
>>> I hope that we, in this position we find ourselves in - as builders of the future -
>>> take the time to avoid this mob-like hatred of the things that we fear and instead
>>> try to see them fully and act as protectors of our brothers and sisters, not
>>> tyrants who mistake the thoughts that live inside a mind for the actual person.
>>>
>>> These people are our brothers and sisters. They may be lost, and it is our job
>>> to find the truth and bring it to them with the love and support that is required
>>> of our family. It doesn't matter how many people +1 or pat each other on the
>>> back. It is wrong to generalize and hate and It always will be. An angry mob
>>> can destroy a mind or burn a body but they can never move the truth.
>>>
>>> These people are not your oppressor. You need to look only in the trenches of
>>> your own mind to find that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
>>>
>>> > Also there's a difference between a woman who is forced to prostitute
>>> > because she is dependent or in bad situation, someone who just enjoys to
>>> > do it (no problem with that either- personal choice) VS girls who use
>>> > their sexuality to curry favour for personal benefits - *especially*
>>> > when those benefits are bourgeoise.
>>> >
>>> > There are some really fucked up relationships that are basically a
>>> > business arrangement. Many of them even involve kids and marriages. They
>>> > have no love except a mutual arrangement. When the money dries up, the
>>> > man loses his wife. When the woman gets old, she is worthless.
>>> >
>>> > And imagine the kids raised in those families!
>>> >
>>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y2UPNjRvB8
>>> >
>>> > The blonde girl is reduced to tears because what Jane Elliott says, she
>>> > knows deep down in her heart is true.
>>> >
>>> > On 30/01/14 00:00, Amir Taaki wrote:
>>> >> What do you mean by superiority? I don't think all cultures are equally
>>> >> valid. I don't mind putting down crap culture.
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82WwqXyyWXg
>>> >>
>>> >> This is promoted by mainstream culture. Yet sex itself is a big taboo.
>>> >> Instead of teaching teenagers about relationships, we push
>>> >> celebrity/products/consumerism on them.
>>> >>
>>> >> We are not promoting healthy attitudes to life in general. The world is
>>> >> fucked up because adults cannot have normal relationships with each
>>> >> other. Sex is feared. Women are objects. Men want a pure woman.
>>> >>
>>> >> This is common throughout the world. Many men have it:
>>> >>
>>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93whore_complex
>>> >>
>>> >> There are Saudi princes who maintain whore-houses while raising a family
>>> >> with other women.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 29/01/14 22:38, Anthony D'Onofrio wrote:
>>> >>> I'm making no comment on any systems.
>>> >>> I'm saying you're claiming some sort of intellectual superiority which you are
>>> >>> neglecting to use towards those you do not feel an immediate cultural connection with.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> We don't live in a world of victims and oppressors. Everyone is
>>> >>>> complicit in some way.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On 29/01/14 21:39, Amir Taaki wrote:
>>> >>>>> Are you trying to make a statement about the system which forces people
>>> >>>>> to make compromises and are placed in a situation where they curry
>>> >>>>> favour not through their actions as people. But is it so passive? Would
>>> >>>>> you say the same about Sabu who betrayed Hammond? In the end when we
>>> >>>>> participate in a culture, we grow that culture too and are responsible
>>> >>>>> for carrying a situation we would prefer not to endure.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On 29/01/14 21:30, Anthony D'Onofrio wrote:
>>> >>>>>> Not everyone is born a genius. Those people have a place in the world as
>>> >>>>>> well.
>>> >>>>>> Genius is a gift, compassion is a choice.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Elizabeth Ploshay wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> +1
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> */Elizabeth T. Ploshay/*
>>> >>>>>>> elizabeth@??? <mailto:elizabeth@bitcoinmagazine.com>
>>> >>>>>>> Manager of Communications
>>> >>>>>>> Bitcoin Magazine
>>> >>>>>>> elizabethtploshay.com <http://elizabethtploshay.com/>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Liad Shababo <liad@???
>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:liad@shababo.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Rough day?
>>> >>>>>>> He got a double full page spread in London's biggest evening
>>> >>>>>>> paper, which credited him amongst other things, as a genius.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> https://twitter.com/wollit/status/428575608709578753
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On 29 Jan 2014, at 21:24, Anthony D'Onofrio <iamtexture@???
>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:iamtexture@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> You lost me at the dumb whores part.
>>> >>>>>>>> Value does not stem from living up to any culturally-mandated
>>> >>>>>>>> expectations.
>>> >>>>>>>> Not culture at large and not yours or mine. Women should be able
>>> >>>>>>>> to dress
>>> >>>>>>>> however they like and still demand respect and love. That
>>> >>>>>>>> includes American,
>>> >>>>>>>> Muslim, Asian, slutty, skimpy, nude, sexy, frumpy - whatever.
>>> >>>>>>>> These women
>>> >>>>>>>> are no less women because of the clothing they put on. They're
>>> >>>>>>>> just like
>>> >>>>>>>> everyone else - tiny people on a big world in an even larger
>>> >>>>>>>> universe,
>>> >>>>>>>> unsure of who they are and what they are, responding to the
>>> >>>>>>>> environment
>>> >>>>>>>> they found themselves in, the mental state they were born into,
>>> >>>>>>>> and the
>>> >>>>>>>> mental state of those around them.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Men respond to beautiful women. Even women respond to beautiful
>>> >>>>>>>> women.
>>> >>>>>>>> A very simple marketing tool is getting beautiful women to stand
>>> >>>>>>>> next to a
>>> >>>>>>>> product. Or hand out a product. Or use a product. This is not
>>> >>>>>>>> exploitative of
>>> >>>>>>>> the beautiful women or reflective of their value. It is
>>> >>>>>>>> reflective of us as a whole,
>>> >>>>>>>> human animals - who are driven by impulses that are not
>>> >>>>>>>> culturally mandated,
>>> >>>>>>>> but which extend from our being as animals who require
>>> >>>>>>>> procreation and
>>> >>>>>>>> survival. This is exploitative of the men who are tricked into
>>> >>>>>>>> associating this
>>> >>>>>>>> product with beautiful women.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Sounds like you're having a rough day Amir. I hope it gets better.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1wg481/hot_asian_chicks_giving_out_free_bitcoins_in_hong/
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> This is trash and degrading to women. People have endless
>>> >>>>>>>>> discussions
>>> >>>>>>>>> about girls in Bitcoin and then talk like this.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> And why? Because it's about promoting girls who find their value
>>> >>>>>>>>> through
>>> >>>>>>>>> their sexuality + beauty, rather than what they objectively do
>>> >>>>>>>>> as people.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Most of you who don't understand are kissless virgins who will go
>>> >>>>>>>>> through their life trying to buy the affection of women. Sex is
>>> >>>>>>>>> good,
>>> >>>>>>>>> love is great... but this attitude of trying to push bitcoin through
>>> >>>>>>>>> sexy women with no brains vs pushing the smart women in our
>>> >>>>>>>>> community is
>>> >>>>>>>>> trash.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> For all the Bitcoiners who seek legitimacy/image and complain
>>> >>>>>>>>> about me
>>> >>>>>>>>> pushing drugs, where are the people saying this is wrong. This
>>> >>>>>>>>> is one of
>>> >>>>>>>>> the highest voted stories on the front page. What did these
>>> >>>>>>>>> girls do to
>>> >>>>>>>>> get that attention of all the Bitcoiners? And what about
>>> >>>>>>>>> Elizabeth who
>>> >>>>>>>>> works tirelessly on Bitcoin.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>
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