Yes, obviously what I wrote was equivalent to calling Amir a whore and getting
a group of people to ignorantly nod their heads in agreement.

Anyway...

Based on the overwhelming ridiculous response by everyone here today - this
group is obviously not what I thought it was. Good luck with your lynchings.



On Jan 29, 2014, at 6:09 PM, Robert Jakob wrote:

> And condemning someone for their opinions is just as judgmental and hypocritical.
>
> On Jan 29, 2014 7:50 PM, "Anthony D'Onofrio" <iamtexture@???> wrote:
> You didn't attack "culture". You attacked people. You didn't call culture a
> whore, you called actual people whores. People you don't know and who
> you have generalized about. You are spoken about as a genius and a
> visionary. Forgive me if I hold you to a standard you are not prepared to meet.
>
> If you hate your own nature then feel free to hate it. But we are all human
> and subject to the follies that come with that. Our individual circumstances
> are rolls of the dice. Calling someone a whore because she does not fit into
> the cultural stereotype you wish to prevail seems unnecessary.
>
> So what if you can get a few people to agree with you or a few women to back
> you because they feel the same way? A mob may be right insomuch as it may
> destroy all opposition, but that does not imply actual truth. Are beautiful women
> who aren't really very intelligent and end up in a circumstance where they are
> compelled to be a "booth babe" really to be hated so deeply? They can hardly
> be one of the primary threats to global peace and human unity.
>
> To me it seems apparent that the real enemy is fear and the actions that we
> commit out of fear - murder, violence, war, and lynching - verbal or physical.
> If we're going to claim some moral superiority then we should be prepared to
> live up to it. "I'm smart and you're dumb, so fuck you!" isn't really a great
> argument.
>
> If I am born smart does that make me virtuous? No.
> If I am born with less intelligence does that ensure my worthlessness? No.
>
> Some people are born beautiful, some aren't. Some are born intelligent, some
> aren't. Some are neither beautiful nor intelligent, and some are beautiful and
> intelligent. What does it matter? These are all rolls of the dice. Can we in good
> conscience hate based on race or gender? I think not. So why based on other
> arbitrary metrics do we consider it okay? Do you really feel like you have
> liberated yourself from the chains of your history? Have you overcome yourself,
> your relationship to your family, your ethnicity, and your intelligence to find
> yourself resting in a place of peace and lucidity so that you may move only with
> conscious volition? It seems the answer to that question is obvious.
>
> If you can't - with all your brains and superiority. Then what chance do these
> people you look down upon have? With genius comes power and with power
> responsibility. You may see these people as icons of things that you find
> repulsive and destructive, but they are just human beings. Tiny, mortal beings
> trapped between a great nothing and an infinity - trying to find a bit of meaning
> and love before they meet an uncertain end.
>
> I hope that we, in this position we find ourselves in - as builders of the future -
> take the time to avoid this mob-like hatred of the things that we fear and instead
> try to see them fully and act as protectors of our brothers and sisters, not
> tyrants who mistake the thoughts that live inside a mind for the actual person.
>
> These people are our brothers and sisters. They may be lost, and it is our job
> to find the truth and bring it to them with the love and support that is required
> of our family. It doesn't matter how many people +1 or pat each other on the
> back. It is wrong to generalize and hate and It always will be. An angry mob
> can destroy a mind or burn a body but they can never move the truth.
>
> These people are not your oppressor. You need to look only in the trenches of
> your own mind to find that.
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 29, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
>
> > Also there's a difference between a woman who is forced to prostitute
> > because she is dependent or in bad situation, someone who just enjoys to
> > do it (no problem with that either- personal choice) VS girls who use
> > their sexuality to curry favour for personal benefits - *especially*
> > when those benefits are bourgeoise.
> >
> > There are some really fucked up relationships that are basically a
> > business arrangement. Many of them even involve kids and marriages. They
> > have no love except a mutual arrangement. When the money dries up, the
> > man loses his wife. When the woman gets old, she is worthless.
> >
> > And imagine the kids raised in those families!
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y2UPNjRvB8
> >
> > The blonde girl is reduced to tears because what Jane Elliott says, she
> > knows deep down in her heart is true.
> >
> > On 30/01/14 00:00, Amir Taaki wrote:
> >> What do you mean by superiority? I don't think all cultures are equally
> >> valid. I don't mind putting down crap culture.
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82WwqXyyWXg
> >>
> >> This is promoted by mainstream culture. Yet sex itself is a big taboo.
> >> Instead of teaching teenagers about relationships, we push
> >> celebrity/products/consumerism on them.
> >>
> >> We are not promoting healthy attitudes to life in general. The world is
> >> fucked up because adults cannot have normal relationships with each
> >> other. Sex is feared. Women are objects. Men want a pure woman.
> >>
> >> This is common throughout the world. Many men have it:
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93whore_complex
> >>
> >> There are Saudi princes who maintain whore-houses while raising a family
> >> with other women.
> >>
> >> On 29/01/14 22:38, Anthony D'Onofrio wrote:
> >>> I'm making no comment on any systems.
> >>> I'm saying you're claiming some sort of intellectual superiority which you are
> >>> neglecting to use towards those you do not feel an immediate cultural connection with.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> We don't live in a world of victims and oppressors. Everyone is
> >>>> complicit in some way.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 29/01/14 21:39, Amir Taaki wrote:
> >>>>> Are you trying to make a statement about the system which forces people
> >>>>> to make compromises and are placed in a situation where they curry
> >>>>> favour not through their actions as people. But is it so passive? Would
> >>>>> you say the same about Sabu who betrayed Hammond? In the end when we
> >>>>> participate in a culture, we grow that culture too and are responsible
> >>>>> for carrying a situation we would prefer not to endure.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 29/01/14 21:30, Anthony D'Onofrio wrote:
> >>>>>> Not everyone is born a genius. Those people have a place in the world as
> >>>>>> well.
> >>>>>> Genius is a gift, compassion is a choice.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Elizabeth Ploshay wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> */Elizabeth T. Ploshay/*
> >>>>>>> elizabeth@??? <mailto:elizabeth@bitcoinmagazine.com>
> >>>>>>> Manager of Communications
> >>>>>>> Bitcoin Magazine
> >>>>>>> elizabethtploshay.com <http://elizabethtploshay.com/>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Liad Shababo <liad@???
> >>>>>>> <mailto:liad@shababo.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Rough day?
> >>>>>>> He got a double full page spread in London's biggest evening
> >>>>>>> paper, which credited him amongst other things, as a genius.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://twitter.com/wollit/status/428575608709578753
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 29 Jan 2014, at 21:24, Anthony D'Onofrio <iamtexture@???
> >>>>>>> <mailto:iamtexture@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You lost me at the dumb whores part.
> >>>>>>>> Value does not stem from living up to any culturally-mandated
> >>>>>>>> expectations.
> >>>>>>>> Not culture at large and not yours or mine. Women should be able
> >>>>>>>> to dress
> >>>>>>>> however they like and still demand respect and love. That
> >>>>>>>> includes American,
> >>>>>>>> Muslim, Asian, slutty, skimpy, nude, sexy, frumpy - whatever.
> >>>>>>>> These women
> >>>>>>>> are no less women because of the clothing they put on. They're
> >>>>>>>> just like
> >>>>>>>> everyone else - tiny people on a big world in an even larger
> >>>>>>>> universe,
> >>>>>>>> unsure of who they are and what they are, responding to the
> >>>>>>>> environment
> >>>>>>>> they found themselves in, the mental state they were born into,
> >>>>>>>> and the
> >>>>>>>> mental state of those around them.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Men respond to beautiful women. Even women respond to beautiful
> >>>>>>>> women.
> >>>>>>>> A very simple marketing tool is getting beautiful women to stand
> >>>>>>>> next to a
> >>>>>>>> product. Or hand out a product. Or use a product. This is not
> >>>>>>>> exploitative of
> >>>>>>>> the beautiful women or reflective of their value. It is
> >>>>>>>> reflective of us as a whole,
> >>>>>>>> human animals - who are driven by impulses that are not
> >>>>>>>> culturally mandated,
> >>>>>>>> but which extend from our being as animals who require
> >>>>>>>> procreation and
> >>>>>>>> survival. This is exploitative of the men who are tricked into
> >>>>>>>> associating this
> >>>>>>>> product with beautiful women.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sounds like you're having a rough day Amir. I hope it gets better.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1wg481/hot_asian_chicks_giving_out_free_bitcoins_in_hong/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> This is trash and degrading to women. People have endless
> >>>>>>>>> discussions
> >>>>>>>>> about girls in Bitcoin and then talk like this.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And why? Because it's about promoting girls who find their value
> >>>>>>>>> through
> >>>>>>>>> their sexuality + beauty, rather than what they objectively do
> >>>>>>>>> as people.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Most of you who don't understand are kissless virgins who will go
> >>>>>>>>> through their life trying to buy the affection of women. Sex is
> >>>>>>>>> good,
> >>>>>>>>> love is great... but this attitude of trying to push bitcoin through
> >>>>>>>>> sexy women with no brains vs pushing the smart women in our
> >>>>>>>>> community is
> >>>>>>>>> trash.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> For all the Bitcoiners who seek legitimacy/image and complain
> >>>>>>>>> about me
> >>>>>>>>> pushing drugs, where are the people saying this is wrong. This
> >>>>>>>>> is one of
> >>>>>>>>> the highest voted stories on the front page. What did these
> >>>>>>>>> girls do to
> >>>>>>>>> get that attention of all the Bitcoiners? And what about
> >>>>>>>>> Elizabeth who
> >>>>>>>>> works tirelessly on Bitcoin.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We have smart capable women in our community, so why are we
> >>>>>>>>> promoting
> >>>>>>>>> these dumb whores? Who the fuck are they? Plastic girls with big
> >>>>>>>>> tits?
> >>>>>>>>> Wow you're so cool. It reminds me of when the BF choose that young
> >>>>>>>>> plastic pretty spokesgirl to represent them on TV who knew
> >>>>>>>>> nothing about
> >>>>>>>>> bitcoin. And those BitPay adverts who use the girl in pretty red
> >>>>>>>>> lipstick to push their product. Why not promote a world based on
> >>>>>>>>> love
> >>>>>>>>> with relationships established based on mutual understanding, rather
> >>>>>>>>> than promoting a world where men make money to fuck good looking
> >>>>>>>>> young
> >>>>>>>>> bitches. 90% of you will never be in that bracket either.
> >>>>>>>>>
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