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Author: Aimee Maree
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Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] Where are all the women in Bitcoin? Here they are!
Love and agree with what you said Amir

"We don't live in a world of victims and oppressors. Everyone is complicit in some way"

What your seeing is Asian culture at its worst for example when a lot of IT companies launch in Asia they will use manga characters with massive breasts etc as this is excepted in their culture. I don't like it nor agree that we should not question these things If we are to change etc but yep as someone from Asia Pacific seen it heaps.

Also the link only shows women who are at companies etc not hackers or activists I dislike those things personally it's like woohoo we have some women.. But I understand it's need in today's current climate.



> On 30 Jan 2014, at 9:27 am, Elizabeth Ploshay <elizabeth@???> wrote:
>
> +1
>
> Elizabeth T. Ploshay
> elizabeth@???
> Manager of Communications
> Bitcoin Magazine
> elizabethtploshay.com
>
>
>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Andrew Miller <amiller@???> wrote:
>> Here's a much better post, an infographic on "the women of Bitcoin",
>> hopefully this serves as an antidote:
>> https://cryptocointalk.com/blog/3/entry-79-updated-women-of-bitcoin/
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:
>> > We don't live in a world of victims and oppressors. Everyone is
>> > complicit in some way.
>> >
>> > On 29/01/14 21:39, Amir Taaki wrote:
>> >> Are you trying to make a statement about the system which forces people
>> >> to make compromises and are placed in a situation where they curry
>> >> favour not through their actions as people. But is it so passive? Would
>> >> you say the same about Sabu who betrayed Hammond? In the end when we
>> >> participate in a culture, we grow that culture too and are responsible
>> >> for carrying a situation we would prefer not to endure.
>> >>
>> >> On 29/01/14 21:30, Anthony D'Onofrio wrote:
>> >>> Not everyone is born a genius. Those people have a place in the world as
>> >>> well.
>> >>> Genius is a gift, compassion is a choice.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Elizabeth Ploshay wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> +1
>> >>>>
>> >>>> */Elizabeth T. Ploshay/*
>> >>>> elizabeth@??? <mailto:elizabeth@bitcoinmagazine.com>
>> >>>> Manager of Communications
>> >>>> Bitcoin Magazine
>> >>>> elizabethtploshay.com <http://elizabethtploshay.com/>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Liad Shababo <liad@???
>> >>>> <mailto:liad@shababo.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>     Rough day?
>> >>>>     He got a double full page spread in London's biggest evening
>> >>>>     paper, which credited him amongst other things, as a genius.

>> >>>>
>> >>>>     https://twitter.com/wollit/status/428575608709578753

>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>     On 29 Jan 2014, at 21:24, Anthony D'Onofrio <iamtexture@???
>> >>>>     <mailto:iamtexture@gmail.com>> wrote:

>> >>>>
>> >>>>>     You lost me at the dumb whores part.
>> >>>>>     Value does not stem from living up to any culturally-mandated
>> >>>>>     expectations.
>> >>>>>     Not culture at large and not yours or mine. Women should be able
>> >>>>>     to dress
>> >>>>>     however they like and still demand respect and love. That
>> >>>>>     includes American,
>> >>>>>     Muslim, Asian, slutty, skimpy, nude, sexy, frumpy - whatever.
>> >>>>>     These women
>> >>>>>     are no less women because of the clothing they put on. They're
>> >>>>>     just like
>> >>>>>     everyone else - tiny people on a big world in an even larger
>> >>>>>     universe,
>> >>>>>     unsure of who they are and what they are, responding to the
>> >>>>>     environment
>> >>>>>     they found themselves in, the mental state they were born into,
>> >>>>>     and the
>> >>>>>     mental state of those around them.

>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>     Men respond to beautiful women. Even women respond to beautiful
>> >>>>>     women.
>> >>>>>     A very simple marketing tool is getting beautiful women to stand
>> >>>>>     next to a
>> >>>>>     product. Or hand out a product. Or use a product. This is not
>> >>>>>     exploitative of
>> >>>>>     the beautiful women or reflective of their value. It is
>> >>>>>     reflective of us as a whole,
>> >>>>>     human animals - who are driven by impulses that are not
>> >>>>>     culturally mandated,
>> >>>>>     but which extend from our being as animals who require
>> >>>>>     procreation and
>> >>>>>     survival. This is exploitative of the men who are tricked into
>> >>>>>     associating this
>> >>>>>     product with beautiful women.

>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>     Sounds like you're having a rough day Amir. I hope it gets better.

>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>     On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:

>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>     http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1wg481/hot_asian_chicks_giving_out_free_bitcoins_in_hong/

>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>     This is trash and degrading to women. People have endless
>> >>>>>>     discussions
>> >>>>>>     about girls in Bitcoin and then talk like this.

>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>     And why? Because it's about promoting girls who find their value
>> >>>>>>     through
>> >>>>>>     their sexuality + beauty, rather than what they objectively do
>> >>>>>>     as people.

>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>     Most of you who don't understand are kissless virgins who will go
>> >>>>>>     through their life trying to buy the affection of women. Sex is
>> >>>>>>     good,
>> >>>>>>     love is great... but this attitude of trying to push bitcoin through
>> >>>>>>     sexy women with no brains vs pushing the smart women in our
>> >>>>>>     community is
>> >>>>>>     trash.

>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>     For all the Bitcoiners who seek legitimacy/image and complain
>> >>>>>>     about me
>> >>>>>>     pushing drugs, where are the people saying this is wrong. This
>> >>>>>>     is one of
>> >>>>>>     the highest voted stories on the front page. What did these
>> >>>>>>     girls do to
>> >>>>>>     get that attention of all the Bitcoiners? And what about
>> >>>>>>     Elizabeth who
>> >>>>>>     works tirelessly on Bitcoin.

>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>     We have smart capable women in our community, so why are we
>> >>>>>>     promoting
>> >>>>>>     these dumb whores? Who the fuck are they? Plastic girls with big
>> >>>>>>     tits?
>> >>>>>>     Wow you're so cool. It reminds me of when the BF choose that young
>> >>>>>>     plastic pretty spokesgirl to represent them on TV who knew
>> >>>>>>     nothing about
>> >>>>>>     bitcoin. And those BitPay adverts who use the girl in pretty red
>> >>>>>>     lipstick to push their product. Why not promote a world based on
>> >>>>>>     love
>> >>>>>>     with relationships established based on mutual understanding, rather
>> >>>>>>     than promoting a world where men make money to fuck good looking
>> >>>>>>     young
>> >>>>>>     bitches. 90% of you will never be in that bracket either.

>> >>>>>>
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