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Author: Thomas Hartman
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To: System undo crew
Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] DarkWallet for BitShares
Adam, how does proving ownership of bitusd work?
On Jan 1, 2014 2:59 PM, "Manfred Karrer" <mk@???> wrote:

> Ethereum sounds super interesting! Hope we see soon more of it and hope he
> can find enough resources.
>
>
> Am 01.01.2014 um 22:47 schrieb Amir Taaki <genjix@???>:
>
> > This is our proposal:
> > https://wiki.unsystem.net/index.php/DarkWallet/Overview
> >
> > These are our priorities:
> > https://wiki.unsystem.net/index.php/DarkWallet#Priorities
> >
> > We're under-resourced, and making a multi-currency wallet that
> > integrates new protocol layers is not serving the people who crowd
> > funded us. There are several protocol layer projects now all competing:
> > Colored Coins, MasterCoin, BitShares, Freimarket, Ethereum and others. I
> > don't think it's wise to spend our time committing to VHS or Betamax
> > when it's not clear what happens and *none* of these technologies are
> > production ready. We have to complete the privacy and blockchain
> > scalability tools and this is not easy work. It's extremely difficult
> > and more and more questions keep opening up.
> >
> > Have you seen Ethereum?
> >
> > http://ethereum.org/ethereum.html
> >
> > The project is active and very interesting. They need resources, and
> > would be great if you could work together.
> >
> > My main gripe with BitShares is that it adds the missing features to
> > Bitcoin as extensions rather than looking what can be enabled in Bitcoin
> > to make these features a possibility (which is what the Freimarket guys
> > did). Ethereum is much more interesting than the other protocol layers
> > because it's creating a generic computing platform with a consensus on
> > the results. You can do all of MC, BS, FM, ... whatever protocol layer
> > and much much more with Ethereum.
> >
> > vitalik is the author.
> >
> > On 01/01/14 21:14, Daniel Larimer wrote:
> >> From the perspective of the wallet, it would be multi-currency and focus
> >> almost entirely on browser side management of keys. The browser would
> >> simply fetch the latest transactions, scan them, update balances, and
> >> enabling the building of transactions. The time and effort involved on
> >> the wallet side would actually be very minimal once you have the
> >> infrastructure for a Bitcoin wallet.
> >>
> >> We are building a separate block explorer that will display a live feed
> >> of market conditions so the wallet wouldn't have to focus on building
> >> the charts.
> >>
> >> Bottom line, I don't think that it would require much risk to Dark
> >> Wallet's current design. There are about 8 'output types' that would
> >> need to be managed, every transfer has a unit, and otherwise very
> >> similar logic to a bitcoin wallet.
> >>
> >> I haven't looked at the web-based wallets, but CryptoKit seems to be the
> >> biggest competitor to DarkWallet.
> >>
> >> Anyone who has doubts about BitShares should schedule a Skype call with
> >> me. The white paper needs to be refreshed to add clearer explanations.
> >>
> >> You all have a lot of talent and I would like to maximize the benefit we
> >> can give society by working together.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 1, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Thomas Hartman <thomashartman1@???
> >> <mailto:thomashartman1@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I confess I don't follow how bitshares will work although I read the
> >>> whitepaper. In other words I have some doubts.
> >>>
> >>> But I'll give BitShares the benefit of the doubt for the purposes of
> >>> this response and instead ask: what sort of architecture would be most
> >>> cobducive to what you propose?
> >>>
> >>> In other words, what should the components be, and where should the
> >>> interfaces be, to promote maximal opportunities for collaboration
> >>> while minimizing risk that one or both projects could fail?
> >>>
> >>> Personally I'm taking a close look at sx tool with a view to
> >>> refactoring it and plugging it into other codedbases I'm working on. I
> >>> haven't taken a close look at darkwallet yet but I'm curious what you
> >>> think with fresh beginner mind hat on.
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 1, 2014 11:58 AM, "Daniel Larimer"
> >>> <dlarimer@???
> >>> <mailto:dlarimer@invictus-innovations.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>    All,
> >>>       I would like to make a proposal that we combine your work on
> >>>    the Dark Wallet with my work on BitShares.  The result would be a
> >>>    browser-based client that enables everyone to buy/sell/short and
> >>>    deal in options all manner of currencies.

> >>>
> >>>       I am prepared to fund such an effort if we can agree on some
> >>>    basic specs and costs.

> >>>
> >>>       I think we would all make a lot more progress by working
> >>>    together if possible.

> >>>
> >>>       What do you think?

> >>>
> >>>    Dan
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