Not sure if cutting their cashflow would help. At the power level they already have they could easily create new sources of funding like payments for protecting large companies from cyber attacks (maybe the attacks are driven by nsa itself), taking money from illegal activities they observe, blackmail,...
education seems to me one of the most important parts. but what to tell the people what we can do? the current situation is just frustrating and people tend to ignore that kind of stuff...

> Am 01.01.2014 um 11:23 schrieb Bruce Chastain <alfredchastain@???>:
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> Things can be done, technically, to improve privacy, to generally make their work more difficult, however in the end the fact is they have massive cash flow and until that is lessened they're just going to keep doing what they do. So I see only way to solve these problems is to work in every channel, by that I mean, political, civil disobedience, technical solutions, education, etc.
>
> All these things are done to us because people are afraid to stand up, in most cases not even willing to take the smallest risk. Frankly based on what I'm seeing in the general public, I'm now pessimistic about the situation, it seems that largely people just don't give a damn.
>
>
>> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Wendell <w@???> wrote:
>> Did you watch the video?
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>> I hate to burst our collective techno-utopian bubble, but IMO the NSA is already a kind of malformed DAC, one with a LOT of active bounties being funded and accepted by significant numbers of less-than-scrupulous vendors.
>>
>> Remember, they're not just poisoning the software, they're also poisoning the HARDWARE and the NETWORK. From the sound of things in that talk, it seems we have to pretty much rebuild our entire info-technological base from scratch, all while sustaining heavy fire in every sense.
>>
>> DACs will not be some kind of panacea. We have not even begun to consider their black-hat uses and implications anyway.
>>
>> -wendell
>>
>> hivewallet.com | twitter.com/hivewallet | pgp: B7179FA88C498718
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>> On Dec 30, 2013, at 6:25 PM, Anthony D'Onofrio wrote:
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>> > The next generation of DACs and bounties will allow us to rapidly solve these problems. We can create a bounty for things like this. We will be able to raise money and create bounties within the scope of a DAC, outsource the identification of both technical and non-technical vectors for solving problems, and then the DAC will monetarily reward people for building the required infrastructure and accomplishing goals initially set forth by the DAC specification.
>> >
>> > Most people only move so far as their revenue streams allow them. This will allow large amounts of money to be crowdsourced and then spent on building the necessary social, technological, and political infrastructure necessary. All living in a decentralized cloud that leaves participants blameless.
>> >
>> > We may not be able to solve the problems with only technical solutions, but we can create technical solutions which act as catalysts to solve the problems as quickly and efficiently as possible. This being commonplace is realistically less than 6 months out.
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