Gobsmacked.

The NSA has essentially baked themselves into the fabric of the internet.
I was really amazed about 'diode' attack being "beat the speed of light" by
being able to transmit a spoofed response faster than the requested website
can, to the target.

Our big concern should be the ability to modify internet traffic at scale
with "deep packet injection" - especially downloads.

E.g. bitcoin-qt is distributed over plain http at sourceforge.net.
bitcoin.org is also http only so the links could be altered.

Applebaum says that TLS is effective in blocking this attack.

I think it's imperative we lobby all wallet providers to make their sites
https only and to use download sources which are https. This would severely
hampers large scale attacks.

The NSA "Exploits Everywhere" campaign leaves the doors open to others who
find the exploits (and they have been according to the video).

Drak




On 30 December 2013 22:19, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:

> Don't lose hope :) We're here 1 brick at a time. That you, I and others
> are talking about a new reality is a start. People are already buying
> drugs online. The small and powerful live off the large and
> disenfranchised.
>
> On 30/12/13 22:15, Manfred Karrer wrote:
> > Probably many of you have already seen that video of Jacob Applebaum at
> the CCC:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0w36GAyZIA
> >
> > I was not so much suprised by many NSA activities we heard about in that
> year, but that is really, really SHOCKING!
> >
> > That changes for me also the view I had about Bitcoins security. The NSA
> can by 100% break the system if they want (they have 1000s of attack
> vectors). I was not so sure about that before.
> > So as we cannot fix all the technical weaknesses leading to this digital
> 1984 nightmare in what we are living, we certainly need to fight also on
> the political side.
> > I was thinking before technology could just make old school politics or
> power structures obsolete, but I am not so sure about that anymore. They
> have created with the NSA a monster in the worst sense of that word, and to
> beat them on the technological side seems to me naive (after I saw that
> video).
> >
> >
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