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Author: Thomas Hartman
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To: System undo crew
Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] We were all children, don't lose hope :)
Robert, have a look at mastercoin, bitshares, coloredcoin, the
asicminer on blockchain exchange (maybe vaporware), and vitalik's
etherium.

There are many projects trying to do something like this, those are
just the ones I know best.



On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Robert Jakob <rsjakob@???> wrote:
> I like that. I think we're Sisyphus and our only job is to keep pushing
> this big boulder further up the hill. There will be wars, there will be
> sneaky bankers, but every step up the hill is well earned.
>
> I think that we're constantly taking steps in the right direction when we
> increase the availability of technology and increase our capabilities.
> Making bitcoin safe and a secure payment method is a logical next step.
> However, for it to be able to really compete with other currencies we need
> something unique to bitcoin. Besides the functionality of bitcoin, I mean.
>
> I'm sure this is not a new idea, but is anyone working on an international
> stock market using only crypto-currencies? That would be something that no
> dollar based markets could offer. A market where anyone could invest in any
> company in the world without having to worry about exchange rates or market
> rules of a certain country and it could run 24-hours a day. Basically, how
> bitcoin markets already operate. The best part is any company can
> participate not just the ones that government deems legitimate. Meaning
> people could invest in Torrent Freak, The Pirate Bay, MegaUpload, maybe even
> the Silk Road. It would be what a real libertarian free market is supposed
> to be.
>
> I can only assume it would very difficult to implement within the US. Does
> anyone know what kind of legal issues you might run into there?
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Brant Powner <brant359@???> wrote:
>>
>> Well said!
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: epsylon <epsylon@???>
>> To: Amir Taaki <genjix@???>
>> Cc: System undo crew <unsystem@???>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 1:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [unSYSTEM] We were all children, don't lose hope :)
>>
>>
>> Really nice introspective text, Amir. Thnks and keep the music
>> playing!! ;-)
>>
>> On 22/12/13 21:59, Amir Taaki wrote:
>> > Life is tough, and sometimes the odds can seem so overwhelming
>> > that we can look around us and conclude nothing will change.
>> >
>> > But against the backdrop of small voices being shouted down by
>> > authoritative professionals in charge, like kids we are challenged
>> > by problems everywhere. Is your way better? How will it pay for
>> > hospitals or how do XYZ? Nobody has all the solutions. Those who
>> > claim to, are faking it like lying on a job interview.
>> >
>> > The real change won't happen by having a full vision laid out, or
>> > total consensus among everybody. The communists sold a perfect
>> > utopia, and then came the killings and murders because that utopia
>> > is perfect and one small loss today is nothing for one big gain
>> > tomorrow.
>> >
>> > Sometimes we grow up full of hope, then along the way with all the
>> > trajedies and hopelessness in the news conclude that we're all
>> > doomed. On a big sinking ship that we will go down together. In
>> > our youth we maybe become full of optimism and then along the way,
>> > start to worry for the future and all the risks / problems if
>> > things don't turn out well.
>> >
>> > Some of us meet a girl/boy different from all the others, able to
>> > feel us on a deep level, and support you as a strong friend. Full
>> > of passion, your minds become one and the outside world starts to
>> > close off around you. We depart from our responsibilities because
>> > of the girl.
>> >
>> > I want to say that no matter how tempting it seems to retire from
>> > a life of swimming upstream, it is and always will be a false
>> > reality. We need every person to be free. Together we can do a
>> > lot. Each individual is more strong they realise. But I see it all
>> > the time. People telling me we have no power. My goal in life is
>> > to show people that we are incredibly powerful.
>> >
>> > Don't think either that by doing nothing, you are not causing harm.
>> > Everyday we shop at supermarkets, buy from tobacco companies, use
>> > Apple/Google/Facebook/... products, wear clothes from sweatshop
>> > labour, big banks, big pharma, watch hollywood movies, pay rent
>> > money to landlords, support telecoms companies censoring the net,
>> > eat McDonalds, ... Every action taken is creating more work for
>> > someone elsewhere trying to undo your harm. Just ignoring the
>> > problems is making your life worse, and perpetuating the
>> > injustices.
>> >
>> > Bitcoin is not going to bring equality to the world. If anything
>> > it will bring *more* inequality. But Bitcoin will bring justice
>> > and merit. It's not about whether unregulated markets blindly
>> > perform better than 'normal' ones. It's about the tool of power
>> > that we can use to effect the changes we want to see. And it's a
>> > very important tool. The economic system is unsustainable, and
>> > Bitcoin will simply hasten the crisis. We gave adequate precaution.
>> > If through all this time, with all the global protests, worrying
>> > destruction of our ecology, mismanagement and wars by governments
>> > and a growing rise of fascist tendencies through the world... if
>> > throughout all this, you stuck your fingers in your ears and kept
>> > doing the same, repeatedly banging your head against the wall, then
>> > so be it. That's everything wrong in this world.
>> >
>> > If however, we start taking the steps now, we will have a future.
>> > Our friends and children will have a nice niche carved out in the
>> > future of tomorrow. Who knows, maybe that niche will grow, survive
>> > and thrive.
>> >
>> > The world is not fixed. Society has short periods of intense flux,
>> > followed by stagnation. A new wave of thought driven by internet
>> > is rising. With the internet we can now read the bible of
>> > democracy, its words no longer obscured by political-latin. And
>> > what we see before us, is not what we were told. The things are
>> > changing ever faster, and we are rapidly approaching a point of no
>> > return. If we don't prepare for the future, then we have no
>> > future.
>> >
>> > And the change? That will come from outside. Start looking around
>> > you. Your supporters are around you.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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