Voting with your money only works when everyone has the same amount of
money.


On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6:52 PM, caedes <caedes@???> wrote:

> About voting...
>
> You vote with your money, forget about the ballots.
>
> When you buy from evil corporations, you're voting for them. How much are
> you voting them (top of the pyramid)? and how much are you voting your
> friends (bottom of the pyramid)?
>
> And then, come the mathematics of Un-Growth. Less money, less power. Use
> the money to build infrastructure so you will need less and less, build a
> real economy that provides the basics, health, housing, food. Build a
> future you believe in... don't want to extend too much into that right now,
> I think Amir already did it.
>
> It's ok to vote and do it if so pleases you, but always remember, real
> voting is going on each day when you're paying for stuff. That's democracy
> "2.0" and it's been going for a long time.
>
> Now we will build a new system with much better promises than the old
> one... talking to most friends who trusted "the system", I don't think old
> promises can hold any longer no matter who you vote. Our promises become
> fullfilled and grow exponentially at the same time we ungrow exponentially
> too. New democracy is being built bottom-up and won't be about control...
> will be about conscience.
>
> Just by simple mathematics... I think we can be sure, we will win in the
> ballots when the game is already over.
>
> kisses!!!
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> On 19/11/13 00:47, Mevan Babakar wrote:
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> So my job is to get people who don't give a shit about democracy to get
> involved in it. And for the longest time I've been arguing that sure you
> can say that you can tear it down and put up something new, but really
> thats often juvenile and not thought through, if you want to change
> something you have to get your hands dirty and get involved in the
> fundamental values and systems that govern it.
>
> The only other person I have heard made this argument in the media is
> Peter Sunde:
>
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> http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-11/18/peter-sunde-hemlis-political-apathy
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> I am now obviously smitten. What do you guys think? Is there anything
> really more valuable than a vote? Or is a vote worthless? c.f. Brand vs
> Paxman
>
> A lot of people make the arugment "voting is worthless because the
> people you elect are all the same, the system is always the same" so they
> don't get involved. But then how do you change that without getting
> involved? Standing for the people who aren't being represented? It's not an
> exclusive club. Its a malleable system that you can help *shape. *Is this
> a lost cause?
>
> These are my thoughts. I would appreciate yours.
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