jason, i added more info to the Igg page under "your keys. your privacy"
with links to technical info, past work. just going to draft a text now on
how we will use funds and make other improvements.

> To The Crew,
>
> I don't get near enough time to add to the conversation here. That's too
> bad, I am so in awe of the work that is being done here and would love to
> contribute more.
> I first want to congratulate everyone on the indiegogo campaign. The
> initial showing for the fundraiser is quite impressive. I have no doubt
> you
> will exceed your financial goals on this. I donated.
>
> But I can't help but feel you are sacrificing a much larger community
> impact by not having a more plain words description of the benefits of
> dark
> wallet. The video is beautiful, well constructed, and moving. It does
> exactly what it was intended to do. I was moved, I agree with it's
> message...I am also *already on this mailing list. *
> *
> *
> The indiegogo campaign has 133 contributors, that is not a battalion, much
> less an army. And my feeling is that if the contributor list was public I
> would already be familiar with most of the names on the list. People that
> are already, publicly, aligned with the goals stated by this campaign.
> Dark
> Wallet and the other ideals championed by this group are important and
> necessary to EVERYBODY. Even the people that don't know it yet. And the
> marketing campaign, in it's current form, is not digestible to a large
> part
> of the community.
>
> Maybe that's the plan. Maybe you are trying to weed out certain classes.
> But that, seems at odds with the ideals expressed here.
>
> I'm not saying to stop what you are doing, at all. I'm saying I think
> there
> is a great force multiplier to be had by having an additional, stripped
> down version of the message that focuses on just the technical benefits of
> the platform as it is being proposed. The benefits are obvious. They do
> not
> need political overtone, fear, or anarchist galvanization to stand on
> their
> own merits.
>
> Why wouldn't you want trustless mixing?
>
> Why wouldn't you want to have alternative full wallet implementations free
> of qt and bitcoind?
>
> Why wouldn't you want a more distributed group of developers working on
> Bitcoin?
>
> Isn't the whole point of Bitcoin to do away with single point of failure?
>
> These ideas are powerful, very powerful. The work you are doing IS THE
> REVOLUTION. The revolution does not need a trumpeter next to it saying, YO
> DAWG THIS IS THE REVOLUTION.
>
> I propose, sometime in the next few weeks, before the campaign ends, you
> run a piece entitled "Shedding Light on Dark Wallet" that just explains
> all
> the benefits that Dark Wallet can offer, in very plain terms. Just a
> clean,
> well put together, article or video that explains the offering you are
> building. Completely free of any other ancillary benefit or protection
> this
> technology may offer. I think you will be shocked at how well something
> like that will be received.
>
> When you have been breathing smog, oxygen needs no hype man.
>
> And you say you need work, not ideas. If you guys are interested in
> putting
> something like that together, I would be privileged to help create it and
> promote it. And I think it will probably shake a few more talented workers
> out of the woodwork.
>
> At the end of the day, do we want...
>
> To say fuck the US? Or to build the tools that will protect everyone from
> their grasp?
>
> To say fuck the Bitcoin Foundation? Or use them as a speed bump to dance
> with regulators, while we build the infrastructure that makes the
> regulators and the foundation irrelevant?
>
> To say this world is fucked? Or do the work that makes it better.
>
>
> I realize I juxtaposed "you" and "we" a lot here. That's because I
> recognize that I have really done nothing to push this forward so far,
> "you" have. But I feel so close to the ideal here, it's hard to not see
> myself in it. I hope you guys will forgive me grammar indiscretions. I am
> in awe of you all.
>
> Thank you so much for what you do.
>
> Jason King
> Sean's Outpost
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Tristan Winters
> <tristan_winters@???
>> wrote:
>
>> They are referring to this: http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
>>
>> The foundation did not get 9 million dollars.
>> But as soon as the above company got VC backed, they became a “Gold
>> Member” of the foundation.
>> And the foundation got a large number of Bitcoins in that way.
>>
>> Anyway, this has clearly touched a nerve in the community. The
>> crowd-funding 24hr response shows that.
>>
>>
>> On 1 Nov 2013, at 2:25 pm, Amir Taaki <genjix@???> wrote:
>>
>> > this article is head in the clouds laa dee da that does not fit the
>> reality.
>> >
>> > first of all bitcoin foundation should not be involved in development
>> of
>> > bitcoin if that are interacting with the state. that means not paying
>> > salaries to people who exert undue influence over the protocol.
>> >
>> > if they choose to continue to be involved with bitcoin development
>> then
>> > they should also support dark wallet, electrum, and hive (which are
>> now
>> > combining as one project pooling our efforts).
>> >
>> > if they want to be involved in development, then the role should be in
>> > establishing a neutral space (which i have not seen be done and have
>> no
>> > confidence will be done). i want to see more stick. I've seen some
>> cliquey
>> > and sneaky behaviour coming from bitcoind devs. multiple instances of
>> > top-down commands (evoking that power when not neccessary) or shutting
>> > down debate over contentious issues.
>> >
>> > twice i contacted the foundation over issues where I was being
>> unfairly
>> > placed at a disadvantage as a dev because of office politics (being
>> taken
>> > off mailing lists .etc) but they refused to intervene. they are paying
>> > salaries of devs. I would have words if someone I was working with was
>> > acting like a cunt.
>> >
>> > I told this to elizabeth already, and she's a force for good working
>> on
>> > bitcoin with pure motives.
>> >
>> > from a journalist friend of ours. he sent me this yesterday:
>> >
>> >> Just got a call from the bitcoin foundation. They wouldn't go on the
>> >> record to comment on the article but just kept telling me "off the
>> >> record" that you lot have no credibility and that a much better story
>> is
>> >> some venture capitalist yesterday investing $9m in bitcoin...
>> >>
>> >
>> > can't stop laughing. ok, where is this 9 million. what is it doing? i
>> > haven't seen any of it yet. they have all the resources, leigitimacy
>> and
>> > attention but what have they done. they are lost in the politics.
>> >
>> > we have donations from many, not 1 rich fascist. how will this 9
>> million
>> > be used. the money from the community will go far, be collectively
>> > managed in a multisig and be used well. we don't waste 9 million on
>> > lawyers giving to people part of the state apparatus.
>> >
>> > why don't they go on record and back up their words?
>> >
>> > godspeed :) today we finally forced an important issue in bitcoin to
>> the
>> > forefront. this is where we will make our stand for freedom and our
>> > values. great job cody for his mastermind work here.
>> >
>> >> The video is so fucken crazy. Thank God you’re a force for good.
>> >>
>> >> Another time and place you could work for the propaganda ministry of
>> some
>> >> Eastern Block country. :)
>> >>
>> >> Check this out also, it’s a balanced piece doing the rounds:
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://techliberation.com/2013/10/31/bitcoin-is-going-mainstream-here-is-why-cypherpunks-shouldnt-worry/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 1 Nov 2013, at 2:01 pm, Cody R Wilson <codywilson@???>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I'd like to thank everyone on this list especially for the
>> tremendous
>> >>> response the Dark Wallet campaign received yesterday. Within 24
>> hours
>> we
>> >>> received just over 25k USD in combined contributions. Share the
>> video
>> if
>> >>> you haven't already. It seems to be popularizing the spirit of
>> crypto.
>> >>> There is demand!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Amir Taaki <genjix@???>
>> wrote:
>> >>> >> >>> Hi!
>> >>>
>> >>> We're doing a crowd funding campaign for DarkWallet soon. I'm
>> looking
>> >>> for any material (especially from people here) that we can weave
>> into
>> >>> a tapestry of our vision and ideals.
>> >>>
>> >>> How we are thinking, what we are working towards, what interests us,
>> ...
>> >>>
>> >>> Articles, videos, images, forum posts, ... anything. We want to
>> >>> present something to the people
>> >>>
>> >>> * It's not only about the 'black market' but tools for the people,
>> the
>> >>> limitations and the monopoly of money / economy.
>> >>> * Tools like DarkWallet are your own financial system, a free
>> financial
>> >>> system.
>> >>> * It's important to talk about independence and community
>> (organising
>> >>> together).
>> >>> * Everything from petrol, food, computers, even our health is
>> >>> manipulated.
>> >>> * Finance is one aspect, but we need to take back control of more
>> >>> things.
>> >>> * Silk Road: $1.2 billion market, 2 murders, >2 years. DPR is a
>> hero.
>> >>> Compare that with something like producing rice and all the people
>> >>> that die.
>> >>> * More simply:
>> >>> ** Bitcoin = amazing scifi. The blockchain is incredible.
>> >>> ** No technical limitations. The limitations are human limitations.
>> >>> ** We will have all the tools, but we need the community.
>> >>> * Bitcoin Foundation has a lot of money, all the legitimacy but they
>> do
>> >>> nothing. They are lost in the politics, but aren't thinking of
>> serving
>> >>> the people.
>> >>> * We are here now working with the future in mind. These things take
>> >>> time and are slow. Maybe 5 years from now all these crazy concepts
>> >>> become reality.
>> >>> ** Bitcoin is still young.
>> >>> ** It's also about the internet.
>> >>> ** Bitcoin is something new but immensely powerful.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> - --
>> >>> Abolish the NSA
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>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Sincerely,
>> >>>
>> >>> Cody R. Wilson
>> >>> codywilson@???
>> >>>
>> >>> The University of Texas School of Law
>> >>> Class of 2014
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