>> >>     I spoke with his parents for two hours:

>> >>     On 10/04/2013 12:41 PM, Juraj Bednar wrote:
>> >>     > Hi,
>> >>     >
>> >>     >> The Maryland document clearly states it was an undercover FBI
>> agent.

>> >>     >>
>> >>     > Yet it clearly says that the undercover agent arranged the
>> delivery, but
>> >>     > the first person to suggest
>> >>     > torture and then execution was DPR. I still want to believe that
>> that's
>> >>     > not the whole story, on the
>> >>     > other hand, it's a great PR move for influencing the jury.

>> >>     >
>> >>     > >From the state point of view, the FBI did their job and after
>> they've
>> >>     > done it, DPR suggested violence.
>> >>     > (of course we view the acts of the FBI as violence, but that's
>> not what
>> >>     > the general public believes
>> >>     > and it serves their narrative pretty well :(.

>> >>     >
>> >>     >> In most countries in the world, entrapment is thrown out of
>> court. You
>> >>     >> cannot prosecute someone for a crime which the police entrap
>> you into.
>> >>     > Yet there is nothing to suggest so. In Maryland document, there
>> was even
>> >>     > no indication of threats
>> >>     > from the "victim" about releasing documents. DPR was pissed that
>> they
>> >>     > stole some money and that
>> >>     > they could "sing".

>> >>     >
>> >>     > Sort-of prisoner's dilemma, but clearly no direct reaction to any
>> >>     > particular threat.
>> >>     >> They aren't basing their case on attempted murder. So what was
>> the
>> >>     >> purpose of engineering this situation with DPR?
>> >>     > Influence of jury decision and public opinion of course.
>> >>     >> Go and research what DPR is like as a person. Watch his
>> interview
>> >>     >> online where he is talking about true love and his hopes for the
>> >>     >> future of the world. Read some his writings.
>> >>     > His writings are writings of an idealist. We all read it and
>> believed
>> >>     > that it says what we
>> >>     > think. There is always a difference between what someone writes
>> and what
>> >>     > he or she
>> >>     > does. This is not to blame or to praise Ross as a person. DPR
>> was and is
>> >>     > an act.
>> >>     > It may root from his beliefs, but he will be judged as a person
>> based on
>> >>     > his actions,
>> >>     > not based on his beliefs.

>> >>     >
>> >>     > We can discuss if the trial is unbiased and serves justice and
>> not only
>> >>     > the state. It will
>> >>     > almost certainly be biased on the state side, because the state
>> sees
>> >>     > drug trade as
>> >>     > something bad and some people including me, most of the vendors
>> and
>> >>     > customers
>> >>     > and himself see it otherwise.

>> >>     >
>> >>     > Ross was a real person and they are basing their
>> >>     > case on real person and his mistakes. They are winning the public
>> >>     > opinion part pretty
>> >>     > well. :(
>> >>     >> Interview with DPR (left):
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33fxHA-FEYg

>> >>     >>
>> >>     > This is an interview with Ross and I believe these are different
>> >>     > entities. We may discuss
>> >>     > if DPR or Ross was an act, but one of them was.
>> >>     >> By judging DPR, you are buying the picture that has been
>> painted for
>> >>     >> you to slant the public discourse. Remove yourself from that
>> game.
>> >>     >> This moral dilemma is false.
>> >>     > The dilemma is not false.

>> >>     >
>> >>     > But I agree we cannot judge DPR because we have no unbiased
>> information
>> >>     > regarding the
>> >>     > case and we don't have any moral authority to judge him.

>> >>     >
>> >>     > Where are the victims? Let them speak or show that they are
>> missing.
>> >>     > Otherwise, it's a witch-hunt.

>> >>     >

>> >>     >
>> >>     >    J.

>> >>     >

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