thank you all for your feedback,
I still wonder how to make a international network works,
without representation or specials (curators) meetings -
but, maybe I am just optimistic with this list, I don't know why,
maybe because I enter here 'cos someone told me was a international network
and I took it as a chalenge... uau, could this network works? or it is
just a web-list???

We could be more implicated for our meeting in Ubatuba next year,
make something happend between this countries, I'm not sure if it is here
the place to try it,

obs, when I send some video I send it because I think the idea is important
to the list,
like tecnoshamanism or the body in the street - scandals - and I think I
had a kind of participation
in the creation of this network, from Prestes Maia occupation - sao paulo
2003.....

good luck with your eyes patrick
thank you for the web-list neoscience John Hopkins - I'm there now
Im not in london right now, Romanian, im in barcelona going to roma
tomorrow ... so if you have some interesting
thing in roma please let me know

well... * Cultura Digital* is happening in Brazil right now, I'm sure they
are in a very good moment of
meetings, ideas, chalenge, parties, twitter :
https://twitter.com/#!/culturadigital

I will see all the links you send, but of course, I always prefer something
special, at the point,

Let's think about the chalenge: This international network works?
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2011/12/2 James Wallbank <james@???>

> Hi Fabi, Hi All,
>
> You ask about collaborations - and sometimes there are times when
> collaboration is tough. Here in the EU there has been a huge, across the
> board cut in cultural funding, support and available resources.
>
> Sometimes when people go quiet it's not because they aren't interested -
> it's because they're WORKING LIKE HELL to survive, and haven't got enough
> time to discuss the projects they're working on.
>
> What I like about the Brico list is that I know that people are working on
> their own projects - sometimes I don't see or hear from Bricos for several
> years - and then I interact with them again, and it's like there's been no
> gap at all. Often I find that moves we make, and interests that we develop,
> are common, even though we haven't discussed them.
>
> So just to give you all an update, we, in Sheffield, have been WORKING
> LIKE HELL to get resources, and keep going... and a lots of the actions we
> have undertaken have been small and local. This year we have been involved
> in around UKP 1200000 of funding bids (social/digital research, digital
> inclusion, community arts, adult education...) this year. I personally
> wrote around half of those (that's a LOT of funding bids, and not
> interesting to discuss) and up until this week we had raised just UKP
> 5000!!! In a normal year we would expect to raise around UKP100000 from UKP
> 300000 of funding bids.
>
> It seems that things have changed. I expected, with the economic crisis,
> for our funding success rate to go from 30% to around 15% - but not the
> <0.5% that has actually materialised!!! It has (quite suddenly) become
> almost impossible to exist on cultural, educational and economic
> development funding.
>
> But are we giving up? Hell, no! Because we are small, and cheap (for the
> scale of what we deliver) and flexible, we can adapt. So we have an open
> public centre to run, a team of six, and we've been running out of money to
> pay people FAST. However, it has been conceptually very interesting, and we
> have made lots of changes which will allow the project to continue and
> survive - and even grow.
>
> There is lots to say about this - but first I have to get some more work
> done. Watch out for some interesting announcements in the next few weeks.
>
> ...and maybe over the holiday period I will have some more time for
> reflection and discussion!
>
> James
>
> P.S. Patrick, good luck with your eyes!
> ====
>
>
> On 02/12/11 04:34, Patrice Riemens wrote:
>
>> Hear! Hear!
>> I have very little to add since I am mostly a lurker on this list, and
>> only pick up the things I find interesting, but I think we should keep
>> these words by Atteqa in mind - also re: other lists and activities.
>> And on a personal note: I am undergoing eye surgery nest monday. Serious
>> but chance of success are high.
>> Cheers patrizio + Diiiinooos!
>>
>>
>>
>>> to add to the question posed by Fabi
>>> My analysis of the diluted flavour on this list could be due to the
>>> following reasons:
>>>
>>> a) many people on this list are male and do not have a habit of
>>> expressing
>>> their feelings and if they feel they have shown any then they need to
>>> apologize as they have gone against the status quo
>>>
>>> b) its a european thing
>>>
>>> c)the kind of people and environment that readers and writers here want
>>> to
>>> create is a noncommiting one, stay objective and youre safe. Its great
>>> academic gimmick, I've seen it used in many conferences that I've
>>> attended
>>> all over the world
>>>
>>> Theres nothing wrong with it, asking people to open up their Pandoras is
>>> much more difficult to control for admins and time consuming no?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 7:07 PM, fabi borges<catadores@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Why everybody apologizes in this list?
>>>> why when I put some video or work, everybody answer to me particularly,
>>>> it is just for serious, very serious subject?
>>>> there is some order I don't know?
>>>>
>>>> this list could be more simple and more colaborative, isn't it?
>>>>
>>>> apologize, apologize,,,, or.... what?
>>>>
>>>> with love ,
>>>>
>>>> fabi
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