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Author: fabi borges
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Subject: Re: [Bricolabs] Rome, October 15th 2011
but it is important to remember, the 'blac bloc and riots" still have *body,
*
the other groups, I'm not sure!! Where are the body of our "ciber
activists"?

if body is not important, it is because it lost the fight,
not because any ontology....

fabi borges



2011/10/17 Jaromil <jaromil@???>

>
>
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011, John Hopkins wrote:
>
> > I think I rather agree with Peter Wilson that the shine of the media
> > spotlight on one's situation/organization is the same as a
> > death-sentence.
>
> good point. I also think the blac bloc should really stop using public
> demonstrations to protest against private property and damage
> infrastructure. beyond the myopical legal/illegal talk i see two main
> reasons for that: their form of protest is not compatible with that of
> the majority of demonstrators, as well the integrity of urban
> infrastructure has very little relevance for capitalists, since they
> own the construction business and are in charge of re/development.
>
> now, what we are witnessing in Italy is the potential formation of a
> group like the brigate rosse were in the 70s: as the blac bloc
> realizes that their present methods are quite pointless, the natural
> consequence is the adoption of a hit-and-run strategy which mimetizes
> violence within quotidian life, the ultimate bourgeois spook best
> known as terrorism.
>
> while such a transformation might set a limit to the arrogance of
> capitalists and break through the monopoly of violence by the state,
> it will also lead to the same dynamics of manipulation we see in the
> street (yes, there are also infiltrations indeed) and eventually turn
> against its own advocates.
>
> i think the body of this blac bloc movement is still very young and
> reasonable. it will be very sad as those in charge will refuse to open
> a dialogue and give concrete signals of change, since it is still
> possible to avoid the irreversible route to total war. but here lies
> the paradox: those in charge can benefit more from this destruction
> than from peace.
>
>
> ciao
>
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