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Συντάκτης: Didier Kryn
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Προς: dng
Αντικείμενο: Re: [DNG] Considering Slackware Was: tearing down the /usr-move project
Le 30/11/2025 à 11:02, onefang a écrit :
> On 2025-11-30 10:50:28, Didier Kryn wrote:
>> Le 30/11/2025 à 01:41, Steve Litt a écrit :
>>> Didier Kryn said on Sat, 29 Nov 2025 10:11:11 +0100
>>>
>>>> Let me suggest to
>>>> build a static Busybox and install it on /bin and /sbin; it'll take
>>>> you less effort, and the concept has fun by itself, which Slackware
>>>> hasn't.
>>> Questions:
>>>
>>> 1 Have you actually done this?
>>     Yes. During several years.
>>> 2 Did you like the result?
>>     First, it was in a custom initramfs, therefore not in Debian proper, but
>> in a custom pre-boot system for Debian on Powerpc. It was necessary and it
>> worked wonderfully on a production system.
>>
>>     Later I built a Linux-Busybox OS on a USB key to test Vdev, when Jude
>> Nelson was developping it. It was the last time. It did the job.
>>
>>> 3 Was it fun to do?
>>     The first thing you do when starting to develop your init process is to
>> tell the kernel that the init program is an interactive shell (Busybox comes
>> with two shells). Here you are: at the very beginning of it all. DIY; here's
>> a part of the fun. But Busybox is fun to discover also.
>>> 4 Did you use Busybox init?
>>     Never. For my professional project, I devised my own init script. It was
>> in a very peculiar case, with several diskless SBCs using a shared
>> filesystem mounted on NFS, or, optionnaly, a local filesystem on a USB key.
>> The init script detected the configuration automatically.
>>
>>     For Vdev test, the goal was essentially to test vdev, and there wasn't
>> much init to do.
>>
>>> 5 Are you pretty knowledgeable about this subject?
>>   I'm like a kind of veteran user, let's say. Not up to date, but with good
>> remembrance.
>>> 6 Would you like to give a remote presentation on this at GoLUG?
>>     Don't think like doing that. I haven't fun in doing presentations, it
>> would take me a lot of work and logistics. I'm buzy enough.
>>
>>     It seems there are plenty of people on this list who have the desire to
>> play with this sort of things like tweaking the boot process or having
>> static applications. Rather than painfully compiling lots and lots of
>> applications, I say they would have less pain with building a static Busybox
>> and start playing with it.
> The creator of Aboriginal Linux hangs out on this list. That's an
> absolutely bare minimum Linux built using the bare minimum number of
> packages. I've used it for a client years ago, and contributed the x486
> support. It uses busybox.


    There's also another person I know to be an occasional contributor
to Busybox, who attends this list (~:

--     Didier