On 10/8/25 10:37, golinux wrote:
> On 2025-10-07 21:16, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I just installed excaliber rc-1 tonight. I'm going to rip it out
>> tomorrow.  I was miffed to find all sorts of systemd garbage all over
>> it.  It also installed and runs network-manager out of the box. I was
>> a little miffed about that, too, and not just because I can't find
>> the network-manager.conf file. I found all the systemd garbage when I
>> went digging for the network-manager.conf.
>>
>> not good.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Curtis
>>
>
> Curtis . . .
>
> It has always been thus. Please read this post on D1G posted early on
> in Devuan's development:
>
> "Why are systemd files present in Devuan?"
> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1925
>
> If you would like to be crowned the "Devuan Systemd Janitor" and take
> on removing all those useless files, please contact the Devuan Dev
> Team on our development channels.

I can't imagine how much work that would be. Seems to me that would be
going through all of the debian packages to see which ones pull in
systemd libraries.

Here is a list of what I know about packaging
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when I ran a locate on systemd, I was completely surprised at just how
much systemd is in there.

I will run "apt-get purge network-manager." It took me a minute, but I
got the network interfaces running without network-manager.

Thanks, everyone. sorry for the rant.

--Curtis