Andrew Bower <andrew@???> writes:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 11:54:25AM +0100, Rainer Weikusat via Dng wrote:
>> Andrew Bower <andrew@???> writes:
>> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 01:02:44AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>> >> Rainer Weikusat via Dng said on Wed, 16 Jul 2025 12:05:15 +0100
>> >> >Steve Litt <slitt@???> writes:
>> >> >> Rainer Weikusat via Dng said on Tue, 08 Jul 2025 16:30:16 +0100
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>init.d scripts are config file and as such, supposed to be under user
>> >> >>>control. This includes that a user may remove them.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Or put exit 0 at the very top.
>> >> >
>> >> >I used to do that in the past but some woman working for the Mainz
>> >> >university computing center convince me of the other method. Her
>> >> >arguments where:
>> >> >
>> >> > - this render starting the serice manually via init.d script
>> >> > impossible
>> >> >
>> >> > - such changes are easily forgotten and possibly, cause a lot
>> >> > of
>> >> > headscratching because of this while the renamed script is
>> >> > visible in the filesystem without having to look at its
>> >> > content
>> >
>> > All problems which are solved by using update-rc.d as Debian intends,
>> > even though the end user does "own" the conffiles.
>>
>> update-rc.d is a Debian legacy (due to the switch to systemd) tool which
>> was/ is meant to be used by maintainer scripts to isolate them from the
>> details of boot configuration of any particular system for manageing a
>> boot configuration (same as invoke-rc.d, by the way).
>
> I did some digging after your comment and it seems the update-rc.d
> method for manipulating the symlinks is much newer than I thought (2009)
> but certainly wasn't created for systemd.
It didn't write that it was created for systemd but that the adoption of
systemd effectively rendered update-rc.d a legacy tool as systemd has a
different way of doing this (systemctl).
[...]
> I don't know what a new user gains from hacking or renaming init scripts
> rather than using tools to manipulate the symlinks.
Renaming the init script can be done with standard tools, is easily
discoverable with standard tools, and solves the problem.
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