On Sunday 15 June 2025 at 14:08:58, ael via Dng wrote:

> I have just installed an excalibur on a new laptop, and I must say that
> it was not user friendly. There was no obvious help or release note to
> check. I really could not recommend duvuan to a newbie.

I would not recommend an unreleased / testing version of any distribution to a
newbie.

I have not yet tried Excalibur, but my experiences of installing Beowulf,
Chimaera and Daedalus (I've installed all of them from scratch, as well as
having done upgrades) have been:

a) as good as I've experienced for any Linux distribution, and

b) considerably faster and less puzzling than doing a Windows installation
(which I have had to do (versions 7, 10 and 11) over the same timeframe for my
girlfriend, who would love to use Linux, but cannot find a screenreader as good
as NVDA, which is Windows-only).

I'd be interested to know whether your disappointing experience of installing
Devuan Excalibur would have been noticeably different if you had started from
Debian Trixie or whatever comes after Ubuntu 25.04 Plucky Puffin (I'm not even
sure whether Ubuntu *has* testing versions...?)

What I mean by that last paragraph is "are you making a fair criticism of
Devuan specifically, or are you complaining about things from upstream Debian
which the Devuan project doesn't generally attempt to "fix", given that there's
enough work involved in avoiding systemd?".


Antony.

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