Hi Andrew,

Thanks for confirming the problem - when the latest test install of
daedalus was fine, I was beginning to think I'd done something silly :(

I've had a look through the install logs on the laptop:
/var/log/apt/history.log showed that zutty was included automatically.
And like you, in the actual installation sequence in
/var/log/apt/term.log, zutty was immediately followed by xfce4-
terminal. So - factoring in what Ralph said about the last actual
terminal package being the default for update-alternatives, that sounds
like a convincing scenario. The main remaining mystery is why zutty was
being pulled in automatically.

I've just done "aptitude why zutty" on the laptop, and it gave the
following:

i   task-desktop Depends  xorg
i A xorg         Depends  xterm | x-terminal-emulator
i A zutty        Provides x-terminal-emulator        

(Which seems to pose more questions than it answers . . . )


On Sat, 2025-04-19 at 00:00 +0100, Andrew Bower wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 09:46:30PM +0100, Peter Duffy wrote:
> > I installed Debian Bookworm into a virtualbox VM, selecting xfce as
> > the
> > desktop (overriding the default, which was Gnome), and then ran
> > "update-alternatives -config x-terminal-emulator". It was set to
> > use
> > /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal.wrapper.  zutty wasn't installed. I tried
> > installing it just to see if it worked, and if it automatically
> > configured x-terminal-emulator to point to itself. It did work, and
> > it
> > didn't reconfigure x-terminal-emulator.
> >
> > So - based on that, it would seem that this is specific to devuan
> > daedalus - at least at the time that I installed it earlier today.
>
> This isn't specific to Devuan Daedalus. I experienced exactly the
> same
> thing: zutty being installed unexpectedly along with XFCE4.
>
> But in my case it was Debian sid:
>
> 2023-10-27 19:43:28 install zutty:i386 <none> 0.14.6.20230701+dfsg1-2
>
> Interestingly, the very next package to be installed was:
>
> 2023-10-27 19:43:28 install xfce4-terminal:i386 <none> 1.1.1-1
>
> They both have priority 40.
>
> > I'm currently doing a new test install of daedalus into another
> > virtualbox VM. At the moment, I'm thinking that this must have been
> > a
> > recent error, and maybe has been corrected upstream by now - and if
> > so,
> > maybe by now it's percolated into the devuan repos. (I think it
> > would
> > only be noticeable if someone installed daedalus onto old hardware,
> > or
> > if they noticed that the fonts looked a bit weird. I'm not sure - I
> > haven't delved into what's actually behind the zutty error as yet.)