The second devuan test install has now been completed - and it looks as
though the problem has gone away. "update-alternatives --config x-
terminal-emulator" shows that it's pointed to /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal-
wrapper, as expected. zutty isn't installed.

So, the good news is that it's apparently been fixed upstream. The bad
news is that tracing how it happened is probably going to be
impossible. (But I'll give it a go anyway.)


On Fri, 2025-04-18 at 22:16 +0100, Peter Duffy wrote:
> I saw the page on wiki.webevaluation.nl - that put me onto the trail
> of
> zutty.
>
> For me, the thing which stands out at the moment is that there are so
> few reports of this problem. Given that, for installations on
> affected
> hardware (old?)  it effectively cripples the default terminal
> application, it should have caused a lot of yells for help by now. So
> I'm tending to think that it is/was a configuration error which was
> quite quickly noticed and corrected. The new daedalus test install
> which I'm currently doing should give more info (it's netinstall, so
> should be pulling in the latest versions of the packages). If the
> default for x-terminal-emulator is /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal.wrapper,
> then the error has gone away. But if it's still pointed at zutty . .
> .
>
>
> On Fri, 2025-04-18 at 17:57 -0300, altoid via Dng wrote:
> > Hello:
> >
> > On 18 Apr 2025 at 16:31, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >
> > > So is this an upstream issue ...
> > I would tend to say so.
> >
> > Has to be either XFCE or Debian.
> > ie: whichever takes care of the files/assignments in
> > /etc/alternatives
> >
> > Now, XFCE have their own xfce4-terminal emulator.
> > version 1.1.5 released 2025/03/26
> >
> > See: https://docs.xfce.org/apps/terminal/start
> >
> > Why would *they* be mucking around with /etc/alternatives?
> >
> > Searched for "xfce+zutty" and found this page where there is a
> > reference to what Peter Duffy reported:
> >
> > https://wiki.webevaluation.nl/xfce-terminal
> > See Issues -> Xfce terminal does not start.
> >
> > Seems that there is some confusion between 'Debian X Terminal
> > Emulator' and 'Xfce Terminal'.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > A.
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