contained in trees and the humid atmosphere of tropical regions. Water
really better range than Wifi or BT. You can see many such amplifiers
> Vanessa
>
>
>
>
> El mar, 8 oct 2024 a las 10:43, henk (<henk@???
> <mailto:henk@waag.org>>) escribió:
>
> This project comes close:
>
> https://meshtastic.org/ <https://meshtastic.org/>
>
> Meshtastic is a decentralized wireless off-grid mesh networking LoRa
> protocol. The main goal of the project is enabling low-power,
> long-range
> communication over unlicensed radio bands. It is designed around
> exchanging text
> messages and data in off-grid environments, with potential
> applications in IoT
> projects where a decentralized communication system is needed
> without existing
> infrastructure.
>
> On Tue, Oct 08, 2024 at 05:02:48PM +0200, Rob van Kranenburg wrote:
> > Hi Maya, all,
> >
> > In 2011 Christian Nold and me wrote The Internet of People for a
> Post-Oil World.
> > Downloadable here:
> >
> https://archleague.org/publications/situated-technologies-pamphlets-8/ <https://archleague.org/publications/situated-technologies-pamphlets-8/%EF%BF%BC>
> > The Internet of People for a Post-Oil World - The Architectural
> League of New York
> > archleague.org <http://archleague.org>
> >
> > >>> And what might also be important to consider is where the
> energy and material resources necessary for technology come from.
> Because we won’t achieve real change if only parts of the process
> are transparent. Let’s at least be honest with ourselves and
> acknowledge our anarchistic revolutionary tendencies by asking this
> question. These resources as we all know, come from neocolonized,
> severely exploited countries far enough away that consumers are not
> bothered to think about them. It's getting too complicated.
> >
> >
> >
> > We ended with this:
> >
> > To finish and to instigate a discussion, we propose a series of
> indicative standards that test the waters, raise awareness and make
> visible the gap between where we are now and where have to go. The
> triple challenges of climate change, peak oil and social breakdown
> are coming. The question is not if, but when. Our standards are a
> shock therapy to the current practice of making. The sociability
> standards are workable and stem directly from the urgencies we have
> discussed. They will ensure interoperability between all the
> emerging actors. They require the joining of different actors that
> so far have not been involved in the making of standards. All
> technological standards are also social standards.
> > Proximity
> > • Systems that are designed by at least twenty people distributed
> across the world.
> > • Systems that are built less than 150 miles from where the raw
> materials are sourced.
> > • Systems that will not be deployed more than 50 miles from where
> they are built.
> > • Systems whose components are modular and backward compatible to
> allow local repair, upgrade and downgrade.
> > System Thinking
> > • Systems that fix end costs as a percentage on top of publicly
> available production, transportation and disposal costs.
> > • Systems that communicate the break down of energy costs of
> pro-dduction, transport and breakdown of the product.
> > • Systems that automatically generate a fixed, public discussion
> url for each item.
> > Affect
> > • Systems that encourage face-to-face contact.
> > • Systems that build mutual responsibility.
> > • Systems that encourage conflict.
> > • Systems that during their lifetime will be used by more than 5
> people.
> > • Systems that enable strong bonds between people and the
> environment.
> > • Systems that treat resources as equals.
> >
> > Another part: The temporary alliance that you are describing
> reminds me of the Belgian town of Geel where inmates from the
> psychiatric asylum are living with families. This is a practice that
> has a 700-year history. In recent decades, researchers examined this
> living together of “sane” and “insane” people and found that it was
> an incredibly successful model for “community recovery” where
> communities strive to live with, rather than fear, mental illness.
> It created local solidarity.
> >
> > In December there is a Thingscon we will have a workshop on this
> (90% sure) to see if this is pure nostalgia or workable as working
> on some system that functions after everything else fails - without
> having a prepare attitude. Would be great to work on a joint workshop!
> >
> > Greetings, Rob
> >
> > > On 7 Oct 2024, at 20:10, Maira <ce0064@???
> <mailto:ce0064@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Welcome Maya :)
> > >
> > > Hello from Brazil
> > >
> > > Em seg., 7 de out. de 2024 às 11:43, marija nikolic
> <nikolic.a.marija@??? <mailto:nikolic.a.marija@gmail.com>
> <mailto:nikolic.a.marija@gmail.com
> <mailto:nikolic.a.marija@gmail.com>>> escreveu:
> > >> Sorry for the missing photo of the meme :(
> > >>
> > >> <Screenshot 2024-10-07 at 1.49.49 PM.png>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 3:14 PM marija nikolic
> <nikolic.a.marija@??? <mailto:nikolic.a.marija@gmail.com>
> <mailto:nikolic.a.marija@gmail.com
> <mailto:nikolic.a.marija@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> > >>> Hello Bricolabsers,
> > >>>
> > >>> I have no idea how big the group is nor who are the members,
> I've just been invited to the group by my dear friend Rob and I'm
> thankful for that.
> > >>>
> > >>> I recalled recently this meme:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Being a sociologist by education, I found it very accurate.
> Of course, I'm not against studying science and technology; en
> contraire, I spent a long time trying to communicate its value and
> necessity to a wider audience (first to the youngest, but also to
> adults). I completely agree with Carl Sagan's statement: 'We live in
> a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in which
> hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology.' But this
> is also becoming true for other spheres of reality—social,
> political, and philosophical concepts. This is largely why history
> keeps repeating itself.
> > >>>
> > >>> It has become obvious that we have been in an ideological
> crisis for some time, that postmodernism is unraveling, and that
> attempts to sustain it through neocolonialism will likely fail—but
> only if advancements in ICT are not fully controlled by corporations.
> > >>>
> > >>> I love Christina's quote:
> > >>>
> > >>> “I am always interested in who controls technology in any
> given society at a particular time."..
> > >>>
> > >>> And what might also be important to consider is where the
> energy and material resources necessary for technology come from.
> Because we won’t achieve real change if only parts of the process
> are transparent. Let’s at least be honest with ourselves and
> acknowledge our anarchistic revolutionary tendencies by asking this
> question. These resources as we all know, come from neocolonized,
> severely exploited countries far enough away that consumers are not
> bothered to think about them. It's getting too complicated.
> > >>>
> > >>> Perhaps we can contemplate some tech degrowth strategies that
> align with our values of protecting people's freedoms (which
> people?! - I guess all around the globe), digital identities, and
> their right to resist and exist both virtually and in this heavy,
> yet beautiful, material reality worth preserving.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm looking forward to engaging discussions and valuable
> resources in the mailing group.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best,
> > >>> Maya
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 3:52 PM Rob van Kranenburg
> <kranenbu@??? <mailto:kranenbu@xs4all.nl>
> <mailto:kranenbu@xs4all.nl <mailto:kranenbu@xs4all.nl>>> wrote:
> > >>>> Good afternoon, (I resend as I am not sure if this passed,
> apologies if you receive this twice),
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On the matter of dream projects that may become real I have
> been working for the past decade on the idea of regaining back
> control/agency over the big tech world and that is building a full
> European phone, running a EU OS and the #Eurostack.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Christina Caffara wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -The path to independence: given that we cannot Big Bang our
> way from today’s captured vertically integrated infrastructures to
> full independence, what are the steps and priorities to follow to
> get there?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Actually I think that there is a way and that is embedding
> the Eurostack in a European phone. We can regulate the wallet, we
> can also regulate requirements for the phone. We have excellent
> chips -ASML - excellent security PUF - and the ability to run an
> European Operating System with apps and services on search, friends,
> shopping... As a dedicated and trusted device we can also control
> the supply chain fully (re: pagers) and vouch for the validity. The
> device is a focus for new EU research. We can embed an AI layer and
> hardcode the AI Act, simply running AI that is sound and 'vetted'.
> > >>>> We can bring trillions of euros home (GAFAM is worth 7
> trillion) because the services are in the EU cloud where analysis
> and feedback is placed. The EU cloud is the edge of 500 million
> phones primarily.
> > >>>> At the moment we have about 17 Acts and Directives
> regulating data, information, chip, cloud, data spaces, AI, devices
> (CRA)..... All of these are run on compliance alone (and fines) A
> 500 million zone must have other tools than fines. The Acts are
> missing the obvious - while it is staring in our face - the carrier
> itself! Also no rocketsciennce.
> > >>>> Such a framework would run Self Sovereign Identity and
> disposable identities (an identity for a service; for example if you
> rent a house you send a token to the landlord that you can pay, that
> is all he/she needs to know - if you do not pay the token unlocks a
> phone number). This secures privacy for people.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We have a Telegram Group on Disposable Identities:
> > >>>> Disposable Identities
> > >>>> t.me <http://t.me>
> > >>>> <apple-touch-icon.png>
> > >>>> <https://t.me/+T6YMHcJxH4Iy5LUa
> <https://t.me/+T6YMHcJxH4Iy5LUa>>Disposable Identities
> <https://t.me/+T6YMHcJxH4Iy5LUa <https://t.me/+T6YMHcJxH4Iy5LUa>>
> > >>>> t.me <http://t.me> <https://t.me/+T6YMHcJxH4Iy5LUa
> <https://t.me/+T6YMHcJxH4Iy5LUa>> <apple-touch-icon.png>
> <https://t.me/+T6YMHcJxH4Iy5LUa <https://t.me/+T6YMHcJxH4Iy5LUa>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The framework enablers new forms of decision making. We have
> to negotiate referenda and citizen input.
> > >>>> This might sound quite Chinese. In 2010 out of their twelve
> top politicians 9 were engineers and scientists. They understood
> that the hybrid - the merging of analogue and digital - is a new
> ontology that needs decision making systems tuned to the new
> drivers: techne - but the mindset is fully OCD. From a cybernetic
> point of view this system is quite stable in the short and mid term
> but untenable in the longer turn.
> > >>>> We can work on a more balanced system.
> > >>>> Taking control on the phone also means we can renegotiate
> the digital turn that just happened top us. We need a time out to
> rethink what kind of a hybrid world that we want. That should be a
> European discussion that we can not have in the current tech set up.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I am happy to say that my small book on this New forms of
> governance for your hybrid reality has been accepted by Springer,
> and I hope it kan kickstart a debate.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The way can conceive our phone is as a truly trusted device
> that can share moods, run our own AI and as the primary could is the
> edge of 500 million phones we have an instant EU cloud.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I see it as an example of doing extreme centralisation and
> extreme decentralisation at the same time.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The Kenner
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The kenner lives in hot spots and cold spots through
> disposable identities.
> > >>>> We need governance for the hot spots and governance for the
> cold spots.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> “Uncanny is in reality nothing new or alien, but something
> which is familiar and old-established in the mind and which has
> become alienated from it only through the process of repression.” -
> Sigmund Freud
> > >>>>
> > >>>> "The number of people seeking NHS treatment for psychotic
> symptoms including hallucinations and delusional thinking has soared
> in the past two years, new figures show....According to NHS data,
> referrals to mental health services in England for first suspected
> episodes of psychosis rose by 75% in the two years up until April
> 2021, amid what The Guardian described as “the stresses of the
> Covid-19 pandemic”."[1] <>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> "Rates of those at risk for psychotic experiences have
> continued to increase compared with pre-pandemic rates, growing from
> 73% at risk in 2019 to a staggering 80% in 2023." (US figures)[2] <>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The main premise of this text is that the democratic
> apparatus in Western countries is no longer tuned to the hybrid
> world that this seamlessness puts forward. Our current conceptual
> toolbox is no longer equipped to address new challenges: “We grasp
> reality through concepts. When reality changes too quickly and
> dramatically, as it is happening nowadays because of ICTs, we are
> conceptually wrong-footed.” (Gligoric et al., 2017) The most
> important characteristic of ubicomp, pervasive computing, ambient
> intelligence, and IoT is its promise of seamless connectivity. We
> perceive seamlessness in the same category as ‘harmonious’ because
> it is without rupture, questions and conflict. As such it can appear
> as a smooth surface of an object, a well designed situation or
> service or a natural setting. As it sets out to disappear into the
> fabric of everyday life, it obscures the fact that infrastructural,
> hardware, software and interface design decisions were made that can
> not be analyzed, discussed and contested. It becomes next nature,
> the next surface on which to read, write, act and build on. This
> process underlies the main innovations of our time: the internet
> hides the fact that it created the notion of data with the tcp/ip
> protocol - it creates it -, the web hides the fact that although
> html won there were competing visions that stated that to link to
> something that potentially did not exist (Error 404) should not be
> possible and reciprocity[3] <> not linkability should drive this
> information layer, the smartphone hides the business model beneath
> it with the iphone controlling what goes in and what goes out
> through the app store and their designers and ChatGPT hides the fact
> what it has been trained on and what machine learning and AI
> algorithms it runs . It could have all been different. This is not a
> lament, saying things could have been better but a statement meant
> to draw attention to the fact that with the integration of AI we
> need a different approach.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I believe that the day is not far off when all people will
> have some tool, call it a wallet, a router, a phone, a crypto mining
> device (maybe all of that) that runs all computation locally on that
> device and gives out only contextual, time-limited and scope-based
> information; a companion to assist you in educating yourself and
> others in living together on a small planet that is tumbling about
> in vast space. In fact, the 1976 novel Woman on the Edge of Time by
> Marge Piercy, describes this tool in her ‘utopia’ of a society
> combining local bio food and resilient communities running on high
> tech renewables and distributed ledgers provisioning services. Maybe
> it was not a utopia but just a vision? She calls the device a
> kenner. I want to bring her vision alive in an actionable way.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This time she saw that what she had taken for a watch on
> Luciente's wrist was not only that, or not that at all. He was not
> lifting it to his ear to hear it tick, but it spoke almost
> inaudibly. "What's that?" My kenner. Computer link? Actually it is a
> computer as well, my own memory annex (p52)....It ties into an
> encyclopedia - a knowledge computer. Also into transport and
> storage. Can serve as locator-speaker. (P 64)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> NINO: Nonsense In, Nonsense Out- that's the motto on every
> kenner. It means your theory is no better than your practice, or
> your body than your nutrition. Your encyclopedia only produces the
> information or misinformation fed to it. So on (p67)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Allright, you have all these things on your wrist. Somewhere
> there is a big computer. How does it recognise you? " My own memory
> annex is in my computer", Lucent said. " With the transport of an
> encyclopedia, you just call for what you want." " But what about the
> police? What about the government? How do they keep track of you if
> you keep changing names?"Again a great buzz of confusion and kenner
> checking passed around the table, with half of them turning to each
> other instead. " This is complicated." The old woman, Sojourner
> shook her head. " Government I think I can grasp. Lucent can show
> you the government, but nobody's working there today." (p*0)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> "Our technology did not develop in a straight line from
> yours", Lucent said seriously, looking with shiny black gaze, merry,
> alert in a way that cast grace notes around her words. " We have
> limited resources. We plan cooperatively. We can afford to
> waste...nothing. You could say our religion? - ideas make us see
> ourselves as partners with water, air, birds, fish, trees." " We
> learned a lot from societies people used to call primitive.
> Primitive technically. But socially sophisticated...We tried to
> learn from cultures that dealt well with handling conflict,
> promoting cooperation, coming of age, growing a sense of community,
> getting sick, aging, going mad, dying, - (p132)
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ➔ The vision of Marge Piercy on computing can only be
> characterized as very advanced is we look at what was actually
> happening in 1976:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ● “Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak demonstrated the first
> Apple computer at the Home Brew Computer Club in April 1976. The
> Apple I had 6502 MOS (Metal-Oxide-Semiconductor), 1 MHz processor, 8
> kB of onboard memory, and 1 kB of VRAM (Video Random-Access Memory)
> for $666.66.
> > >>>> ● Intel introduced the 8085 processor in March 1976.
> > >>>> ● Steve Wozniak designed the first Apple, the Apple I
> computer, in 1976; later, Wozniak and Steve Jobs co-founded Apple
> Computers on April Fools' Day.
> > >>>> ● The first 5.25-inch floppy disk was invented in 1976.
> > >>>> ● Zilog, Inc. introduced the Z80 eight-bit microprocessor.
> > >>>> ● Microsoft introduced an improved version of BASIC.
> > >>>> ● On February 3, 1976, David Bunnell published an
> article by Bill Gates complaining about software piracy in his
> Computer Notes Altair newsletter.
> > >>>> ● Professor at Bowling Green State University first
> used the term "computer ethics."[4] <>
> > >>>> ● In December 1976, Bill Gates dropped out of Harvard
> to devote all his time to Microsoft[5] <>.”
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It is clear that there was no comprehensive framework at the
> time to reflect on the influence and repercussions on introducing
> computers into society. In hindsight it is easy to say that this was
> logical as it was introduced by computer scientists and engineers to
> gradually bring industrial machines and processes to individual
> citizens. However, Marge Piercy was able to imagine a world in which
> everyone was ‘person’ foreshadowing the gender and LQBTQ movement,
> a world full of mobile phones, and these mobile phones were
> instrumental and integrated into larger decision making processes as
> well as serving as real time feedback on actions, and sketches two
> trajectories of how the future can look: dystopian autocratic (the
> city of control) and utopian balanced (the city of trust). Her work
> is called feminist and in the 2016 Introduction to the reprint of
> the novel she calls it ‘profoundly anarchist and aimed at
> integrating people back into the natural world and eliminating power
> relationships:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> “I am always interested in who controls technology at any
> given society at a particular time. Who decides that trolleys and
> passenger trains are obsolete but cars are all-important and our
> cities must be built around them as if they were the primary
> inhabitants? Who chooses which technology is explored?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> In the 2012 Transformational Technologies #4: Implications
> for an Expanding Threat Environment Conference, there were several
> lectures, one of which was on the history of anarchism. The speaker
> went through a long list of bombings and attacks, only to end on one
> in particular to state that the reasons behind it were unknown and
> that no one knew why he actually threw that bomb.As I was sitting in
> the audience I was very surprised to hear this and to think that as
> no one on the room reacted, a lot of intelligence attendants felt
> the same. No doubt that there was no particular idiosyncratic reason
> for that attack, but that it symbolized some form of power
> structure. The real reason was a lifelong felt injustice for the
> entire political situation. This does not justify the attack, but it
> shows that law enforcement and intelligence seem to think these
> events somehow come out of the blue, whereas they evolve in a long
> process from deeply felt injustice and lack of being part of
> decision making processes. On July 1, 1910, in Tobolsk the Omsk
> Military Tribunal sentenced Sergei Vilkov to death. He was found at
> 9 o'clock that same evening, dead in his cell. “He had tied a length
> of rope to a ring in the wall tha supported his bed and while lying
> had slowly strangled himself to death.”[4] This process of
> radicalization can be guided towards more productive ends if
> individuals are recognized and followed up earlier in life.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Current technological and socio-cultural reality could not
> have emerged nor evolved without tools from anarchist theory and
> praxis. These tools are currently not recognized. Anarchism still
> has a bad reputation. Yet without broadly educating citizens into
> self-organization on matters of data and identity (owning and using
> private and public keys) positive cybernetics will be impossible.
> Anarchism – “a political theory, which is skeptical of the
> justification of authority and power, especially political
> power”[1] is equated with chaos, unrest, violence, and terror[2].
> Yet, without it blockchain, decentralization as a technical force
> favoring the ‘edge’ over the ‘cloud’, cryptocurrencies and p2p
> platforms, digital twins, and Proof of Work, Decentralization,
> Satoshi Nakamoto Consensus, Asset Tokenization, Freedom Blocks,
> Global Public Ledger [3], the Internet of Things, Industry 4.0 and
> Self Sovereign Identity could not have been conceived.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> As humans are equal, generic infrastructures should support
> all of them equally in their basic (food, shelter, care, education)
> and intellectual (no blockades in any information flow) needs. How
> simple can it be, how true this is and how absurd we are not living
> this reality now.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The most fundamental anarchist protocol is the protocol of
> the internet itself, as it simply says: pass on the packet. It is a
> radically new way of organizing data and information. It has created
> industrial giants and a political system, but it has not yet created
> a fair, social and just system making use of all current
> technological resources.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [1] Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy,
> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/anarchism/
> <https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/anarchism/>
> > >>>> [2] Lucy Parsons: “I am an anarchist. I suppose you came
> here, the most of you, to see what a real, live anarchist looked
> like. I suppose some of you expected to see me with a bomb in one
> hand and a flaming torch in the other but are disappointed in seeing
> neither. If such has been your ideas regarding an anarchist, you
> deserved to be disappointed. Anarchists are peaceable, law-abiding
> people. What do anarchists mean when they speak of anarchy? Webster
> gives the term two definitions chaos and the state of being without
> political rule. We cling to the latter definition. Our enemies hold
> that we believe only in the former.”
> https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/1886-lucy-parsons-i-am-anarchist/ <https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/1886-lucy-parsons-i-am-anarchist/>
> > >>>> [3] Listed in a Tweet Blockchaintiger.rvn –
> Joshua @blockchaintiger
> > >>>> Aug 23
> > >>>> “Ravolutoion!” $RVN Gem stone
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Proof of Work
> > >>>> Decentralization
> > >>>> Satoshi Nakamoto Consensus
> > >>>> Asset Tokenization
> > >>>> Freedom Blocks
> > >>>> Global Public Ledger
> > >>>>
> > >>>> $RVN Gem stone aka #Bitcoin 3.0 is entering
> the first halving.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [4] Daniel Beer, The House of the Dead, Siberian Exiles
> under the Tsars, Allen Lane, 2016, p 381.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [1] <>
> https://theweek.com/news/science-health/954485/why-psychosis-is-on-the-rise <https://theweek.com/news/science-health/954485/why-psychosis-is-on-the-rise>
> > >>>> [2] <> Mental Health America releases analysis of its 2023
> online mental health screens; U.S. sees continued rise of anxiety,
> psychosis and ADHD risk
> > >>>>
> https://mhanational.org/news/2023-online-mental-health-screens-analysis <https://mhanational.org/news/2023-online-mental-health-screens-analysis>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> [3] <> Project Xanadu (/ˈzænəduː/ ZAN-ə-doo) was the first
> hypertext project, founded in 1960 by Ted Nelson. Administrators of
> Project Xanadu have declared it superior to the World Wide Web, with
> the mission statement: "Today's popular software simulates paper.
> The World Wide Web (another imitation of paper) trivialises our
> original hypertext model with one-way ever-breaking links and no
> management of version or contents."
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Xanadu
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Xanadu>
> > >>>> [4] <> Walter Maner, a philosopher who teaches computer
> science at Bowling Green University, is credited with coin- ing the
> actual term "computer ethics" in 1976, although he states that it is
> still too early to provide a formal definition for the term. He
> observes that when the computer is in- volved in moral problems, the
> problems tend to be exacer- bated and new ones may even be created
> [1]. Deborah Johnson, a philosopher at Rensselaer Polytechnic
> Institute who wrote one of the first books about computer ethics
> [2], states that the ethical problems related to computers are not
> unique. They are the same old problems of privacy, power and
> property, but they tend to occur on a much larger scale because of
> computers. She calls computer ethics a "new species of generic moral
> problems [1]."
> > >>>>
> https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/271125.271138#:~:text=Walter%20Maner%2C%20a%20philosopher%20who,formal%20definition%20for%20the%20term <https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/271125.271138#:~:text=Walter%20Maner%2C%20a%20philosopher%20who,formal%20definition%20for%20the%20term>.
> > >>>> [5]
> <>https://www.computerhope.com/history/1976.htm#:~:text=printer%20in%201976.-,New%20computer%20products%20and%20services%20introduced%20in%201976,disk%20was%20invented%20in%201976 <https://www.computerhope.com/history/1976.htm#:~:text=printer%20in%201976.-,New%20computer%20products%20and%20services%20introduced%20in%201976,disk%20was%20invented%20in%201976>.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> —
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Wishing you all a good Sunday! Rob
> > >>>>
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