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Autore: Felipe Schmidt Fonseca
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Oggetto: Re: [Bricolabs] Questions
Everything we have is ourselves

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On 27/09/2024 20:49, Maira wrote:
> Hi Rob
>
> I agree: If we don't live it, nothing will.
>
>
>
> Em sex., 27 de set. de 2024 às 15:01, Rob van Kranenburg
> <kranenbu@???> escreveu:
>
>     Hi James, all,

>
>     What do you see as the audience?

>
>     In the first instance us, the original people on the bricolist. I
>     heard Felipe say that he sometimes felt defeated as if we have
>     already lost. The 'we' here are the people who believe in
>     decentralised solutions, are weary of power and power structures
>     and aim to save/regain/keep what Benjamin calls the aura of the
>     work of art, singular really local and private meanings that
>     should b e c celebrated as that which can not be uploaded as data
>     into machines that reshape it without care, without meaning,
>     without love.
>     So I think that is the primary audience: us. We are all quite
>     powerful when we feel good, happy and see openings. When things
>     are closed or appear to close down we get depressed and our
>     intelligence starts to eat itself, an awful situation where we
>     have all been.
>     The first duty of the guerrilla Che said is to have good shoes.
>     The first duty of us is to have a good brain and feel open and
>     happy whatever else is happening on the planet. Getting down
>     because of it won't do anyone any good.

>
>     Now I come to think of it that is our primary audience and goal to
>     allow ourselves and our friends to see openings. Where they are
>     that is for each of us to decide.

>
>     Secondary audiences are the makers: scientists, engineers,
>     tinkerers that come to our spaces, meetings, events, that read our
>     texts to get away from a notion of use and efficiency that they
>     find to limiting but which still is the core of today's production
>     in the model of companies, shareholders and venture capital to
>     something like for example Steward-ownership. So to them we can be
>     an inspiration.

>
>     Tertiary audiences are citizens, 'users' of the products,
>     services, applications - things, rituals and practices designed by
>     makers who work with them not for them.

>
>     What's the objective?

>
>     The objective is to keep the line - the open space/access space -
>     open. That is the most important objective.
>     This is what shocked me most when I first noticed IoT or ambient
>     intelligence. This idea of tagging every object on the planet. I
>     wondered who writes the data in the tags but more important I
>     realised that gradually the information on the tag about the
>     object would become the dominant interpretation in fact it would
>     become as important or as actual as the object itself. Then the
>     world closes.
>     When I first was in meetings with the engineers I asked them if
>     they had ever heard of animism. There are cultures who not only
>     talk with and to objects they believe they are alive. Western
>     culture does not promote that but I grew up with a world of
>     affordances and connotations around objects. They could mean so
>     many things to so many people. This poly interpretability is the
>     key to life as we know it still.
>     In the world as a database the database becomes the sole provider
>     of meaning.
>     That equals death.
>     So in my opinion the key objective is to keep this very old
>     witching potentiality of openness alive.
>     I believe that this line runs in and through people. Brings me
>     back to our audience:us. If we don't live it, nothing will.

>
>     Greetings, Rob

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