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On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 7:44 AM Didier Kryn <kryn@???> wrote:

> Le 24/09/2024 à 13:02, o1bigtenor via Dng a écrit :
>
>
> Hmmmmm - - - so there are a whole pile of 'secret handshakes' and the
> like in the learning of 'C' to necessitate the need for lessons - - -
> that's
> too bad. Having read many reports of poor quality C programming I am
> somehow then even less impressed.
> You're recommending a good book - - - - imo there are likely a
> plethora of books - - - how does one determine which are good ones without
> previous understanding? (Seriously - - - to accurately determine the
> quality
> of a didactic text takes expertise and when one is starting the learning
> process what one is exactly short of is that - - - expertise!)
>
> Over to you for more information.
>
>     I learned K&R C language starting in 1980, by writing programs, with
> an engineer at hand to answer my questions. ~10 years later I found an
> excellent book edited by O'Reilly, but I probably gave it to someone who
> did not give it back. Later I found at the same editor a book on both C and
> C++, which was poor about C. This was before C99, but well after the advent
> of ANSI C.

>
>     Today I'm not able to suggest a book. However I don't think it is
> valuable to learn K&R C. ANSI C was a big improvement, and there has been
> some other significant improvements since then, even if I don't know all of
> them. I guess there are professional C programmers around there who can
> suggest good books.

>
>     For what regards lessons on  programming languages, like in every
> matter, I have experienced that the learning is faster *and better* with
> lessons and tutorship, at least at the beginning. This is true for ski, and
> for swimming, and is also true for programming. Why wouldn't it be?

>
>
>


Having suffered under far too many purportedly good sets of lessons (and
tutorship) in
technical areas and others I am somewhat loathe to accept the need for such
with
recommendations to at least good stuff.
The lessons that I've found so far online seem to suffer from a huge
inability to learn and
a vast overconfidence in 'purdy pictures' to provide most of the
instruction. Some of us
learn by reading and doing without needing a plethora of videos (most often
hard to follow)
with precious little actual content.

So - - - what lessons are recommended to actually get the job done?

Regards