> Hi Sharat,
>
> Yes, we are in the full fire of it all, states dying and fighting back
> with fines, and way to much cash with GAFAM - worth seven trillion now
> - so they can buy anything they want coupled with Ayn Rand characters
> like Musk. Quite a novel if you come to think of it, but real instead.
> Singularity, yes I think and thought when I heard of it first what a
> sham and trap that was/is. Decoupling life from any technological
> advances and curing this and that within a decade.
> The fire is all consuming and sucking air out of critique (any form of
> potential critique is now voiced as ‘ethics), and we must be clear
> also that this IoT/AI connectivity will not be killed or stalled.
> This morning I took a bus and 9 out of ten people were either looking
> on their phone or holding it in their hands. The other 10% was sleeping.
> I don;t think we should say things like: get off your phone. Instead
> we could have our own phone. We looked into this in 2007
> NLnet; Bricophone <https://nlnet.nl/project/bricophone/>
> nlnet.nl <https://nlnet.nl/project/bricophone/>
> favicon.ico <https://nlnet.nl/project/bricophone/>
>
> <https://nlnet.nl/project/bricophone/>
> On that phone we could install our ideas of what connectivity
> could/should look like ( it could explode if you look at it for too
> long :),
>
> I set up a Zoom for September 22 16:00 CET.
>
> I think Venzha can join then and people from the States, if not, let
> me know and I adjust,
>
> Greetings, Rob
>
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>> On 10 Sep 2024, at 23:31, Sharath Chandra Ram <looplogic@???>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Great to hear from you Rob, and for echoing Venzah's thoughts who I
>> have been in touch with (albeit not having visited in a while).
>>
>> Having divorced myself from disciplinary pursuits about 15 years ago,
>> I continue to straddle between the art of audition and the politics
>> of transmission.
>>
>> However despite all the push towards transdisciplinary meaning
>> making, it is disappointing to note that technological determinism
>> has become even more stronger this decade.
>> Not only that, but a lot of my extremely talented friends in the arts
>> seem to be giving in to the Singularity movement.
>>
>> Meanwhile, looking forward to connecting with everyone on Zoom !
>>
>> Regards
>> Sharath
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 1:46 PM Rob van Kranenburg
>> <kranenbu@???> wrote:
>>
>> Hi James,
>>
>> "Entertainment, in the form of the arts, builds meaning. And
>> whoever builds meaning builds the future.
>>>
>>> It is crucial to understand just how significant imagination is
>>> as a precursor to change."
>>
>> Crucial yes.
>>
>> I think it is a good idea if we set up a Zoom for in the coming
>> weeks where everyone can join if they want,
>>
>> Greetings, Rob
>>
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>>> On 10 Sep 2024, at 13:02, James Wallbank <james@???> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is definitely of interest, Rob!
>>>
>>> I'd like to suggest that we may be approaching a point of unique
>>> opportunity. Forgive me if this observation veers towards the
>>> abstract.
>>>
>>> It seems to me that political and economic power has become
>>> incredibly backward-looking. Despite their investment in
>>> futuristic technology, currently tech billionaires (and fossil
>>> fuel billionaires) seem, increasingly, to manufacture support
>>> for their activities by appealing to nostalgia, revanchism,
>>> reactionary ideas, divisiveness and disconnection. Artificial
>>> Intelligence will only accelerate this tendency,
>>>
>>> This tactic may be as depressing as it is effective, but it
>>> leaves the field open for a new type of participatory futurism,
>>> in which citizens imagine, experiment with, and participate in
>>> practices that reflect imaginative futuristic visions, We need
>>> to do it, because they won't. We will regain the cultural
>>> initiative, because their power rests upon reactionary,
>>> backward-looking structures and ideas, that Rob describes as
>>> "Operating like Feudal Lords".
>>>
>>> As well as active "refusenik" practices (we periodically see
>>> waves of people abandoning social media, for example) we also
>>> need to encourage, support and platform new citizen-led visions
>>> of the future. I suspect, at the core of this, is the activity
>>> of making your own value―not simply providing yourself with
>>> necessary goods and services (cooking your own food, generating
>>> your own power, building your own computer) but also building
>>> entertainment yourself, rather than receiving it from corporate
>>> writers rooms via corporate pipes. Entertainment, in the form of
>>> the arts, builds meaning. And whoever builds meaning builds the
>>> future.
>>>
>>> It is crucial to understand just how significant imagination is
>>> as a precursor to change.
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 8:32 PM Rob van Kranenburg
>>> <kranenbu@???> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We are all a lot wiser and not in a bad shape it seems.I too
>>> agree about picking your fights. For me it was the
>>> realisation that there were too many drivers cheering for
>>> the Internet of Things, so no point in fighting it but
>>> becoming part of it. So in 25 years I have become an
>>> industry expert:
>>> https://onem2m.org/membership/executive-viewpoints/927-rob-van-kranenburg-au24
>>>
>>> I have recently written a text that spans that 25 years and
>>> that offer some solutions, I hope.
>>>
>>> I think it is time to revive resources on the bricolist and
>>> see what we have.
>>>
>>> We have expertise in EU funding programs and know how to do
>>> proposals. We all have extensive networks and can help
>>> people to introductions.
>>>
>>> I had a great talk today with Venzha and we both agreed it
>>> was a good idea to see who is doing what and how people are
>>> seeing the present and future,
>>>
>>> Greetings, Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
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