Hey all,
Thanks from me for some interesting comments and thoughts regarding KDE and other topics in this most interesting forum.
My OT was prompted by Steve Litt's Void presentation a few days back where he installed the KDE desktop on Void per a question by a participant. When Steve opened the applications folder I noticed it only showed the applications the Steve had previously installed.
That piqued my interest as I always liked the looks of KDE but used LXDE and XFCE on machines as they have always been on older stuff.
KDE without the loads of applications is an interesting possibility.
Maybe just DE boredom on my part to look into KDE again with the OT question.
73
Charles




On Wednesday, July 10th, 2024 at 7:05 PM, Steve Litt <slitt@???> wrote:

>
>
> Martin Steigerwald said on Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:46:36 +0200
>
> > Steve Litt - 10.07.24, 18:42:59 CEST:
> >
> > > dbus. Also, it's got so much stuff interacting with each other that
> > > it's a resource hog, and if your computer is at all flaky, KDE will
> > > make it flake much more often. Imagine you've opened Chromium tabs
> > > for Javacript piggy sites Buick.Com, Ford.Com, Chevy.Com, Jeep.Com
> > > and Dodge.Com. In the best of situations your computer will be slow
> > > and maybe glitchy. Now throw in the KDE resource hog, and watch your
> > > problems multiply.
> >
> > That KDE is a resource hog is a myth.
>
>
> Here's what I know from personal experience...
>
> In the early 00's my old, poorly provisioned and glitchy travelling
> mid-tower used KDE and could not make it the whole way through a
> demonstration or presentation. I replaced KDE with IceWM and it became
> a very capable machine.
>
> In the early 10's a KDE app, I think Kmail, produced instances of
> dbus-daemon that consumed well over 90% of CPU. I had to create a
> looping daemon that, if dbus-daemon was over 90% twice in 3 seconds,
> killed dbus-daemon.
>
> Kmail2 was a showcase for the KDE philosophy: "Include everything you
> can, and bind as tightly as you can with the most complex interfaces
> you can." All of a second there was a conspicuous time and CPU
> consuming Akonadi, and some gigantic pig named Nepomuk. And don't
> forget that the 1.6GB soprano-virtuoso.db file.
>
> My philosophy is "make everything as simple as possible". KDE's
> philosophy is "weld in everything you possibly can".
>
> I suppose it's possible that in the 12 years I haven't used KDE that
> they've somehow made it simple and more modular. But it's really not
> worth the time to find out. If they've simplified, they'd be the only
> software project to do so.
>
> The last time I used KDE it was a horrendous resource hog, and
> I didn't need a top or vmstat command to tell me so: A stop watch was
> sufficient.
>
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