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Autor: Didier Kryn
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A: dng
Asunto: Re: [DNG] Yeah, I'm angry
Le 16/06/2024 à 14:14, Tom via Dng a écrit :
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>> On 15 Jun 2024, at 16:36, Steve Litt <slitt@???> wrote:
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>> Hi all,
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>> I'd like to recommend somebody, hopefully in a United States time zone,
>> who can authoritatively refute all the systemd bullshit. I don't mean
>> from a practical viewpoint; I could do that. I mean from a
>> byte-for-byte viewpoint.
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>> If you know of an authority who fits the bill, please let me know.
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>> Thanks,
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>> SteveT
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> If you need a technical argument you could try Laurent Bercot from s6
> project.
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> https://skarnet.org/software/systemd.html
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> Or alternatively Rich Felker from musl libc.
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> http://ewontfix.com/14/
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    I suspect these two guys would refuse a very political and
opinionated debate. From the little I know of them, they like to
concentrate on building good software rather than combating bad one.

    Though I don't want to speak for them, I think brilliant and
creative software developpers, like these two, better concentrate on
what they are good to; this is the best they can do for free software.

    Probably the strongest argument is the one of Peter Duffy. And also
the great lie about systemd: it was meant to speed-up boot, which it
fails to do, and actually it just replaces the traditional Unix/Linux
"do one thing and to it well" commands by requests to a big do-it-all
black-box.

    All these syetemd afficionados, did they ever compare boot-speed?
Do they have any idea of what the boot time is on a sans-systemd box?
Boot-time is a non-existing problem and when one person or group
pretends to solve a non-existing problem, they just lie to people to
sale them something they would otherwise never buy.

--     Didier