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Autore: Peter Duffy
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To: dng
Oggetto: Re: [DNG] Yeah, I'm angry
I guess the trouble is that people with an agenda (hidden or otherwise)
won't listen to rational arguments.

For me, it all boils down (and has always boiled down) to a single
question. Why is systemd not optional? If it had been optional from the
start, no one would have had a problem with it. Those who liked it
could use it; those who didn't could use something else.

It always starts me thinking about the rollout of communism in Russia
in the early part of the 20th century. "Here's this wonderful new way
of ordering and managing society. In fact, we think it's so wonderful
that we won't give you the option of using anything else. If you don't
like it, go and live somewhere else." (And we all know how that went.)

I keep wondering about the possibility of forking systemd and re-
engineering it to make it optional - so that it could be routinely
replaced with other init systems, as the user wished. Received "wisdom"
is that it would be impossible. But I wonder. After all, it's just
software. And that really would take the fight into the enemy's camp.


On Sat, 2024-06-15 at 02:36 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> On a LUG mailing list, I revealed my opinions of systemd. Their
> systemd
> aficionados of course trivialized me and my opinions, we've seen it
> all
> before. Now one of those aficionados recommends we have somebody to
> speak on systemd, and recommended Leonnart Poettering. Of course.
>
> I'd like to recommend somebody, hopefully in a United States time
> zone,
> who can authoritatively refute all the systemd bullshit. I don't mean
> from a practical viewpoint; I could do that. I mean from a
> byte-for-byte viewpoint.
>
> If you know of an authority who fits the bill, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
>
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