On Fri, 17 May 2024 10:23:39 +0200
Martin Steigerwald <martin@???> wrote:

> Steve Litt - 17.05.24, 09:48:53 CEST:
> > I wasn't able to parse the exact point you were making, but just in
> > case it was in response to Debian ruining the Linux world by accepting
> > systemd, I'd reply that Debian wasn't just a single distribution: It
> > was the foundation for Ubuntu and probably a hundred other
> > distributions. Once Don Armstrong broke the tie in systemd's favor, it
> > foist systemd on the majority of existing distributions. And of course
> > they already had the redhat galaxie.
>
> SUSE switched over to Systemd as well before Debian did.
>
> Would be interesting to know the current market share regarding Systemd or
> alternate init system distribution wise.
>
> I bet Alpine Linux is used *a lot* in the container world. And also the
> Devuan community does not appear to be so small anymore. But did not
> research whether there are any reliable numbers. Distrowatch is not really
> an accurate measure, I'd say. They just measure web page accesses. And
> that has a lot of uncertainties:
>
> 1. Alpine Linux and other alternative init system distributions may be
> more used on servers than desktops. No desktop, usually no web browser
> accessing the site.
>
> 2. The web browser may be configured to report at running under Windows for
> making it less unique and thus more difficult to track. My main browser
> does.
>
> 3. Users of some distro may access the site more often than often.
>
> 4. They have Devuan in the list, but I am not sure how reliable the
> browser based differentiation between Debian and Devuan really is.
>
> 5. It is just accesses of the web page anyway. In addition to servers all
> kinds of systems that are not used for web surfing are excluded.
>
> Best,

Hi,
Could it be possible to count downloads of isos or even better
create an update to some deb package that is installed in all
architectures and count the downloads of the updated package.
This would give a precise number of real users.

Just my 0,2 cents.

Ciao,
Tito