On 08.04.24 13:19, onefang wrote:

> My smart phone has two Linux operating systems in it, the Android

> operating system, and an ancient Debian VM that I haven't used in many

> years.  So ancient it predated my Devuan involvement.  It's an old smart

> phone.  Not as old as us 60, 70, and 80 year olds though.

The "smart" phones aren't smart enough; mine failed to synchronise with

the car when I was in it, but when making a call from the other end of

the house, I had no voice path - the other party was saying "hello hello"

on the car speaker. Had to go sit in the car to complete the call. I may

only be 70, but I do pine for the old days. (Except for being able to

charge the EV off-grid, and drive on photons. Oh, and PCB CAD, like

Kicad. The old crepe tapes were not optimal. And cheap PCBs off the

internet in a week or two. Damn nifty.) But phones, nah!

Erik