On 2024-04-07 21:46:51, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 12:40:57PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > zeitgeisteater via Dng said on Sat, 06 Apr 2024 22:59:29 +0000
> >
> > >There's a risk of serious upending here at the boomer cliff.
> > >
> > >My foremost thought has been Torvalds no longer around to keep
> > >Poettering out. This thread is not improving my outlook.
> > >
> > >Imagine this future: Current tech stacks maintained by former Twitter
> > >staff.
> >
> > Linus Torvalds is 54, 20 years younger than I. If he keeps control of
> > the Linux kernel till he's my age, I'll be safely in my grave (I hope)
> > before what you're saying comes to pass.
> >
> > Theo de Raadt is 55, so the same applies to him.
> >
> > So I'm hoping that by the time what you predict comes to pass, there
> > will be nobody left who cares about simplicity, modularity, POSIX,
> > the Unix Philosophy, Linux, or BSD. If a tree falls in the forest miles
> > from the nearest person, did it make a sound?
> >
> > My 3 kids went straight from MS-DOS to Linux, having Linux throughout
> > their 4 years of high school. But when they went to college they got
> > Windows laptops, and never came back to Linux. When they year me talk
> > about Linux and modularity, they roll their eyes as if to say "there
> > goes Dad on his soapbox again." Nowadays their whole world is their
> > cell phones: Computers are gaming appliances. They won't miss what we
> > were privileged to have.
>
> And the cell phones all run either Linux or Unix.
> Well hidden, but there they are.

Even dumb phones?

Mind you my current "dumb" phone has a web browser and Facebook app, the
later pissed me off, can't remove it. No idea what operating system it
has, just that it's not Android or iOS. Entirely possible there's some
form of Linux or Unix inside it though.

My smart phone has two Linux operating systems in it, the Android
operating system, and an ancient Debian VM that I haven't used in many
years. So ancient it predated my Devuan involvement. It's an old smart
phone. Not as old as us 60, 70, and 80 year olds though.

I use my dumb phone for actual phone stuff, the smart "phone" is mostly a
pocket computer, it doesn't even have a SIM, and when it did, it was a
data only SIM.

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