Hello:

On 12/30/23 12:25, altoid via Dng wrote:

>> Linux has tens of thousands of very capable users ...

Lars Noodén via Dng wrote:

> ... work flow be modified to let them in?
> ... the sea change needed in how work is split up ...

I don't know exactly how the maintainer work flow is designed, I
expect that each maintainer or group of maintainers has their own way
to get their work done, but I.may be missing something.

I think that the best way (?) to get this done would be as was said
earlier by tito, to leverage/use what we *already* have at hand.

ie: find a way to leverage systemd .service files to convert them to
initscripts.

Both .service files and initscripts are, by design, standardised and
by comparison to human language, very simple so it should be (?)
straightforward to translate one to the other.

I may be mistaken, but I really don't think Devuan will be able to
count on package maintainers to keep initscripts up to date for *us*
to be able to use their packages in systemd-less distributions.

That task cannot be left to package maintainers basically because it
will *not* get done, it has to be done at distribution maintainer
level.

On one hand because, maintenance wise, it is more work for them.
At the most, some may leave them around for historical purposes but
the scripts will not be maintained.

And on the other, because systemd is *the* tool with which MS/IBM/RH
has been infiltrating the Linux ecosystem.

So we can only expect for things to get even murkier.
eg: unreadable .service blobs anyone?

Best,

A.