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Auteur: tito
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Aan: dng
Onderwerp: Re: [DNG] New goodies from systemd
On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 11:27:04 +0200
Martin Steigerwald <martin@???> wrote:

> tito via Dng - 30.07.23, 10:10:31 CEST:
> > > Here are some benefits:
> > >
> > > * Never again would some poor daemon upstream or package maintainer
> > > need to burdon him/herself with init scripts, run scripts, unit
> > > files
> > > and all that stuff. They already did us a favor by
> > > creating/packaging
> > > the daemon: They shouldn't have the further demands of startup
> > > scaffolding.
> >
> > I still think that a debian policy to actively hand over the
> > runit,init,openrc scripts if removed to orphan-* packages is the
> > easier alternative and probably could be setup as debian still states
> > that it supports init diversity. What do the people that is/was in
> > debian about this proposal?
>
> Some maintainers in Debian already do this. See for example:
>
> Bug#1042082: Please take over udev SysV init script
>
> https://bugs.debian.org/1042082
>
> However if its about discussing init diversity (I'd love to have a
> better word for this) in Debian (!), this is clearly not the list that
> is likely to reach all of people who do the actually work.
>
> Debian-init-diversity -- Debian ecosystem init system diversity
>
> https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/debian-init-diversity


Hi,
I'm subscribed to that list so I could forward it over there.
My problem with that is that I know nothing about
the inner processes of debian and I'm not involved
in debian packaging.
As it seems to me that you are more experienced
would you like to sponsor the proposal over there
in the case you agree with it to some extent?

> is the list for that. And yes, its not on official Debian infra structure
> on purpose. But there Devuan *and* Debian developers and developers
> working for both distributions communicate with one another!
>
> For anyone who has a proposal, I bet its also good to bring in some time
> and willingness to contribute in some way.


Hope that thinking about the future of devuan is part of "some way".

> Best,


Ciao,
Tito