On 30-07-2023 10:16, tito via Dng wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 19:28:33 -0400
> Steve Litt <slitt@???> wrote:
>
>> tito via Dng said on Sun, 30 Jul 2023 00:22:02 +0200
>>
>>
>>> 3) last solution would be to develop a devuan in house KISS init
>>> system,
>> There's nothing more KISS than runit and s6.
> But as you stated previously they have problems with daemons
> that cannot run in foreground.

AFAIK systemd too does running daemons in the foreground only so this
problem will go away sooner or later.

>>>     but this is like opening a can of worms because I don't think
>>> devuan developers could easily agree about a standard and probably
>>> lack the manpower to do it
>> True. But runit and s6 are already ready to use.
> Yes, but they are not widely adopted for whatever
> reason.....I see the first worms coming out of the can.
> There is also openrc.......more worms.

>

Both are very viable solutions. The reason for not being adapted is in
the amount of work that has to be done to make and test all those new
scripts. The only good part of systemd are those basic service files. Of
course they have to deal with corner cases too and that shows in more
and more added complexity and a lot WON'T FIX of course.

Grtz.

Nick